The Tory leadership contender Dominic Raab has said the possibility of sidelining parliament to force through Brexit should not be ruled out, as to do so would weaken the UK’s negotiating position in Brussels. “I think it’s wrong to rule out any tool to make sure that we leave by the end of October,” Raab told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, as the Conservative party reels from its disastrous results in the European election, in which Eurosceptic voters flocked to the Brexit party. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ent-should-not-be-ruled-out-says-dominic-raab There are now two Tory contenders for Prime Minister who have talked about suspending Parliament in order to force through Brexit against the will of our elected MPs. I never thought I would hear a British MP suggesting suspending democracy. It could force the Queen to become involved with party politics and lead us into a real constitutional crisis. All this when Brexit was supposed to restore democracy to the UK not throw it out when it became inconvenient for the ruling party. It is a dangerous time we in the UK live in.
I am sure there would be a no confidence vote before he got that through. It is true though that there is no way they can get a No Deal through with this Parliament unless the EU does it by refusing to give a further extension and no way that the Tories could expect to win a further election which sort of leaves us in a check position with the only 2 possible moves being a further Referendum or a General Election - which may or may not resolve the solution....or suspending Parliament which I cannot see being allowed. I heard the hopefuls were being warned to pull back from moving to the extreme right if they wanted a hope of being elected.
Here is Bercow on it https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/joh...ic-raab-parliament-suspended-tory-leadership/ At the same time this idea is not new. Ress Mogg suggested it in January https://www.cityam.com/suspend-parliament-if-tries-block-no-deal-brexit-says-jacob/
Does it matter? My understanding was that unless we struck a deal with the EU by 31 October then we would be chucked out anyway. And since the EU is probably as sick of us as we are of them, I can't see any reason why this should not happen.
If it doesn't matter why make a thread on it? Yes the EU not giving a further extension is the most likely way of getting a no deal. If my memory serves me well the EU has said it would consider both a further extension and further discussions on what the deal is if Parliament goes for a 2nd Referendum or a General Election.
I was replying to Bear's post and politely suggesting that Parliament can not really do much about stopping Brexit. It all comes down to good manners and civilised debate, neither of which appear to interest you.
Well if we just leave with no deal then we are breaking the good friday agreement, if for no other reason we have to consider that.
Beg your Pardon. For some reason I thought you were Bear! I doubt your desire for civilised debate given you immediately start dissing people at what ought to have been an obvious if stupid mistake..
I must confess, so did I, maybe it's the avatar and the initial letter B? @Boosewell 'I mean, as I was reading it I thought it was the same poster... I had to scroll up to see that it wasn't'...
And such discussions could go on forever - until the British Conservatives do a Wakey-Wakey! and realize that the consequences to the British standard-of-living are in the balance? For the moment, GB has an historical unemployment-rate that is around 3.8% (which is an historical low-point). All it takes is a turn-around in that rate. And that could happen as soon as the EU starts charging UK-imports with duties. Be careful, boyz-'n-girlz, the UK is (by far) not the cheapest place in Europe to produce ANYTHING (except maybe beer) - and once heavy-industry (that requires very large implementation costs) is gone to eastern-Europe it won't be coming back ... !
It was Gina Miller who put parliament into the equation anyway - so suspending parliament seems fair since parliament's never going to vote for anything. Basically, parliament should sit this one out so Brexit can be achieved. The parliamentary system is broken in regard to Brexit, so should since it's needed be suspended in order to get the job done.
