Bring me home, says Bethnal Green girl who fled to join Isis

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    :shock: Well that's the nicest thing anybody's said about me so far today! :roflol:
     
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47248555

    That's right, our Muslim born home secretary ''won't hesitate to prevent her return''.
     
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    Site rules don't allow me to say what I really think of you...
     
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    Taking your argument that she was groomed to go there, if she is still radicalised, she should be deradicalized which I heard is what is expected to happen. She can be released once it is felt she is safe and to a safe place. She appears to be unusually honest!
     
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    Montegriffo obviously doesn't like me . . . it must be something I said? lol And yet he 'follows' me - is that weird of what? :eyepopping:
     
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    May must not have believed her ears when she found that Uncle Tom. ;)
     
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    Don't be fooled by this 'radicalisation' and 'deradicalization' nonsense - blood lust is either in their DNA or it isn't. Jesus some people are so naive.
     
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    To go a bit further on that and obviously this is just my opinion, but the fact that she spoke of seeing a few heads in the bin but was not fazed by them is not the sort of thing anyone with intelligence, and I seem to remember these girls were bright, would say when they are trying to get non Isis people to help them. It sounds much more the sort of thing someone would say to people supporting ISIS and this suggests she is in need of counselling/therapy to get back in touch with herself.
     
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    What nonsense.
    People are radicalised by external influences. To suggest it is in their genes is just another way of saying ''all Muslims are terrorists'' which is so patently untrue no educated adult should even consider saying it out loud.
    These 3 school girls didn't just suddenly decide for themselves to go and join ISIS. They were groomed and brainwashed by other extremists.
     
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    Look, go and find someone at your own IQ level to interact with.
     
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    Sorry that you feel your IQ is inadequate to converse with me.
    If you wish to appear less intellectually challenged you should just stop saying stupid things.
     
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    Yeah, I walked straight into that one, didn't I. :oops: Actually I saw it coming as soon as I hit the Post Reply button. [​IMG] :mrgreen:
     
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    Prior to which there, I am sure, will be a fully endowed legal team mobilised to enable her defence to be as rigours as possible which one assumes will be provided by legal aid?
    Assuming that there is no direct evidence of a "criminal" act we then go to...
    And that is the issue. The cost to the tax payer in funding the long term resources that will have to be made available in order to monitor and rectify her hatred of the that very same country that she now professes to be the only option for her brat; to foist her and her child onto the taxpayer because her childish little escapade has gone tits up. She will not exist in a vacuum. The state will have an obligation as she is a British national to her and her brat until or if she becomes self sufficient.
     
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    Then maybe they should have been a wee bit better in their parenting skills in order to have forgone this little pickle they find themselves in now!
     
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    Maybe... Or perhaps they just thought it was a romantic adventure. Teen-aged girls can be awfully silly and harmonal.
     
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    or perhaps being coached...you know, to say the right thing to the right people...I was wondering why the Times suddenly comes up with this exposé just before her child is born....just when she want to come home...coincidence do you think?
     
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    It was exactly because she was not saying the right thing that I pointed that out in post 34. She was talking to people she hoped would help her get back home. If she was wanting to be thought someone who should be helped, she would have said something about how it horrified her but she pretended to not be fazed about it to them in order to keep herself safe. That she said she was not fazed by human heads in a bin to a reporter or whoever from the West suggests she is very confused and further would seem to suggest that was what she believed would be the best thing said to a member of ISIS. They apparently hate weaklings seeing them as potential traitors. It would make sense hence if she made a claim that she was not fazed by seeing dead heads in bins to ISIS in order to keep herself safe but makes absolutely no sense to say that to people who may be able to get her the help she needs and I think her saying this has been the major reason people have given for not wanting her allowed back.
     
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    I would think very carefully before you argue against legal representation for British subjects or demonise unborn children for the crimes of their parents.
     
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    I remember hearing that ISIS were presenting themselves as Rock Stars to get European girls/young women to join them.
     
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    Upon careful consideration, I'm reasonably comfortable with my views on her and her brat.
    I don't think I argued against her having legal representation? If it were up to me I would tell her to fcuk off and lie in the turdfest she has made for herself.
     
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    do you think that the intelligence services would be able to see through platitudes....or be taken in by such obvious statements....the best lies contain elements of the truth
     
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    Maybe not directly, but you did imply that legal aid should not be made available to her, just after you called her unborn child a brat.

    I presume that you must have done nothing stupid when you were a child or else you wouldn't be able to mount your high horse and charge into the British legal system deciding who should recieve legal aid and who shouldn't.
     
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    well...I admit I wasn't a saint...but.... for the life of my I can't remember buggering off to parts nasty in order to aid and mate with a rather naughty bunch of people engaged in lobbing bombs and bullets at non-believers...but hey...if you want to revoke my tuckshop privileges for mounting my high horse then tally ho! However, I do think I'm within my rights to have an opinion....as a tax payer...and other than yours! I'll defer to you on that point as you have claimed a sturdy position on the moral high ground with this cause célèbre.
    I would be willing to argue the case for the tax payer to fund a drone strike against her though...I think that would be money well spent.
     
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