Bystander says he saw gunman climb onto roof with rifle; police ignored his shouted warnings

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    I wish he'd included the sniper's shots in his analysis. Maybe they were way to the right of the other shots.
     
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    Maybe you should have watched it properly.
    Uhuh.
    He did, he said there were 5 of them, then 2 different rifles. Which makes total sense. The report said the Secret Service sniper team reacted after first 3, so they are returning fire just as he fires another 2. What's the problem?
     
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    I went back and watched a few videos again. I was looking for some continuous footage that showed the snipers firing. I think I'd seen some before but I couldn't find any. All I could find was footage in which the camera panned away from the snipers just before they started shooting. It kind of looks like the shots that Mike Adams says are coming from further away are happening at the same time that the snipers are firing. It looks like the theory that there was more than one shooter isn't likely. Can someone post some continuous footage that shows the sniper firing?
     
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    It seems the "expert" in post #25 who showed clearly 1 shooter then secret service response doesn't suffice. Back to batshit central for more of these ridiculous videos, no commentary, no analysis and the instruction "look at the video". Tedious.
     
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    At the 3:00 time mark of this video there is footage of the sniper shooting at Crooks.

    Trump Assassination Bid: Secret Service In Action| Watch How Snipers Shot Down Suspected Shooter
    https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...32C0C08CBF753A0D16C632C0C08CBF753A&ajaxhist=0


    We can't hear the shots clearly because of the music.


    At the 00:45 time mark of this video we can see the sniper who would shoot Crooks but the camera pans away just before he shoots.

    Footage shows snipers return fire at Trump rally
    https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...9404F69E0CF12AF72F1F9404F69E0CF1&&FORM=VRDGAR


    We can hear the shots but we can't see him firing as we hear the shots.

    Can anyone find some footage in which we can see the sniper firing with clear audio?
     
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    Here's a scenario that came to my mind.

    The sniper didn't fire and the second set of shots Mike Adams analyzes (post #50) came from two other shooters as he says. Maybe a shooter on the water tower shot Crooks.
     
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    Make a list, we can see how many you can come up with! Here's mine. Lone gunman shoots 3, as he shoots next 2 he's taken out. Secret Service incompetent.
     
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    Here's another analysis in which it's alleged that there was more than one shooter.

    Media Blackout: 10 News Stories They Chose Not to Tell You This Week
    https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/...ories-they-chose-not-to-tell-you-this-week-3/

    Go to this video.
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    Media Blackout 2 @chrismartenson, PhD, presents “rock solid audio proof that there were at least TWO shooters targeting Trump and the crowd.”
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    In this analysis there's a shot about ten seconds after the second volley that wasn't in Mike Adams' analysis. That may have been the sniper killing Crooks. This is consistent with theory I put forth in post #59. We need some continuous footage of the sniper with audio to clear this up.
     
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    Sigh..........an absolutely, totally moronic place to fire from. Ludicrously inaccessible to climb and impossible to make even a slow getaway.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-rally-shooting-conspiracy-falsely-claims-there-was-second-shooter/
    "Within hours of the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, social media users circulated misleading visuals and accounts to falsely claim there was a second gunman atop a water tower at the rally venue.

    The conspiracy was one of several that gained traction online in the aftermath of the attack, as people filled an information vacuum with unfounded claims and speculation. Secret Service agents shot and killed the shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks, almost immediately after he fired at Trump shortly after 6 p.m. on Saturday.

    There is no evidence of a second shooter. Reports from local law enforcement, the U.S. Secret Service, journalists at the event, eye witnesses and hundreds of hours of social media video show there was one gunman at the event, who was located on a roof close to the tower.

    However, the claim spread almost immediately after the shooting, with users sharing blurred videos to falsely claim it showed a figure on the tower. One of the earliest mentions of the water tower posted to X shortly after the shooting suggested the possibility of movement on top of the water tower. Within an hour, other users posted photos and videos of the rally with captions that echoed the claim.

    The false claim was picked up by social media users with large followings, who posted references to the water tower. On X, formerly known as Twitter, community notes were added to some of the posts, debunking the claim. One X post included a clip from a Fox News interview with an eyewitness who referenced "the other shooter" whom she heard was at the water tower. The same videos were then circulated on other platforms, including Reddit.

    CBS News verified eyewitness video of the rally posted to social media, including footage showing angles of the water tower in the moments leading up to the shooting and the immediate aftermath. The videos do not show a person atop the tower. However, blurred versions of these videos were used to push the false claim, where a shadow on the tower could be confused for a person. "
     
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    At the beginning of this video Mike Adams follows up on his audio analysis (post #50). He addresses the issue of the eighth shot. He says it was probably the sniper shooting Crooks.

    WEEKEND UPDATE: July 20th, 2024 – Crowdstrike IT apocalypse explained + expanded analysis of Trump shooting
    https://www.brighteon.com/ab1d0c34-9da7-4cf4-8da5-eb364d486aae
     
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    Well duh. Totally obvious.
     
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    Luckily the incompetence has been rewarded with her resignation.
     
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    Another inside job here. Audio files are showing 2 different weapons besides the Sniper Team's

    The preponderance of the evidence shows inside job.
     
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    Hogwash and what do you mean by "another"?
    No they aren't, that was covered up thread.
    Nope, it shows incompetence from the Secret Service and the lengths conspiracy theorists will go to, to make up "things" that only they are able to "work out!
     
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    There are some interesting comments in the comment sections of some of these videos. Here's one.

    Brighteon Broadcast News, July 24, 2024 – BOMBSHELL leaked video confirms Secret Service sniper team STOOD DOWN while shots were fired
    https://www.brighteon.com/1b64fd41-5579-4162-9014-95bca29d701f
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    By this stage, I strongly suspect that Crooks, ,or Crooke, or whatever his actual name was, not only never fired a shot, but had no ammunition. I suspect he was a patsy who was convinced he was somehow "helping" the "secret service" or "law enforcement" in unknown capacity, and was set up to be murdered, yes, I said "murdered", by one of the team to appear to have been an assassin. Not the first time this has been done, probably not the last.
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    This does seem plausible. He seemed to be in a situation in which they could have slowly taken him in.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Cro...CYAwDiAwUSATEgQJIHAKAHAA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
     
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    The observations of conspiracy theorists have only a level of absurdity as interesting.
    He suspects things.
    The dictionary definition of plausible turned on its head. It is ridiculous. No evidence and they got a kid with a gun and blanks and told him, "don't worry, we won't shoot you, honest!"
     
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    Eeny.
    Meeny.
    Miny.
    Moe.
    Catch a Tiger by the toe.

    A method that will definitely be as accurate as this complete pile of conflicting, evidence-less batshit.
     
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    Here's another theory I think is plausible.

    This photo of the bullet whizzing past Trump could easily have been photoshopped.

    Photographer who took iconic photo of bullet near Trump's ear explains how he got the picture
    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/video/doug-mills-trump-rally-photo-src-digvid

    https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/the-false-flag-trump-shooting/#comments
    (excerpt)
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    A lone nut who couldn’t hit the side of a barn is going to fire a few shots at a Trump rally, and one of them is going to supposedly ‘clip your ear.’ You’re going to flinch at the first shot, reach for your ear, hit the deck, and let one of our guys mess with that ear so that when you stand up, there’s blood. You’re going to take command as they try to drag you off, shake your fist, and say ‘fight fight fight
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    I don't see any reason to rule this out yet.
     
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    This is the only picture I could find that shows his ear immediately after the shooting.
    https://www.news18.com/viral/bullet...assassination-attempt-goes-viral-8966377.html

    I can't make out any wound on his ear. I'm not saying there definitely isn't one.

    This scenario shows a high level of competency the part of the secret service. Their supposed incompetency in the official version is quite unlikely and the debate about whether the government tried to kill Trump and botched it or was simply incompetent is the perfect cover to hide this scenario.


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    Check out this video.

    DID THIS WOMAN KNOW?! Military Body Language Expert Reacts to Suspicious Woman at Trump Rally!



    That woman might have been involved somehow.
     
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