California becomes first state to cover health care for all immigrants

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would cheaper if they weren’t here. Now that Biden invited them here and is providing them with free transportation around the country why would they stop coming here and costing us even more money? And don’t give me that crap about how they improve our economy because, well, there’s over 22 million of them and look at our economy.

    why should they get free health care while people who paid into the system their entire lives still have to pay into the system? Nothing for Americans is free, but if you’re an illegal alien who shouldn’t be who might push out ten or twelve future voters…
     
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    Businesses are going to hire who they want to hire (and I thought the right was all for that?), and in sanctuary cities and states, non-citizens are going to be there anyway. This is going to lower healthcare spending as immigrants are not going to the emergency room, but get regular medicare on a regular basis.

    I'm all for it! :)
     
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    At $170 a month, Medicare is a steal. And even double that for a good Medicare Advantage plan and it's still a good deal. Poor folks even get their other fees and payments paid for by Medicaid if they're in a good area of the country (like New York state).
     
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    Huh? Medicare is a system every legal worker pays into from the day he or she starts working and then still have to pay $170 when they hit 65, even then there are lots of out of pocket costs. But if an illegal sneaked across the border yesterday and never paid a dime into the system he gets for free what Americans spent a lifetime paying for. How is that fair?
     
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    If you had no income where was your Medicaid plan? Let me guess, your significant other made more than enough so that you didn't qualify and they withheld funds from you, or do you live in a red state that didn't expand Medicaid? Either one would have done it.

    I hope you've learned from this and support public healthcare from now on. The costs and lack of coverage on Obamacare plans are highway robbery.
     
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    That’s a lot of words just to justify giving illegals something most Americans can’t get.
     
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    And refuses to give CITIZENS a break on gas taxes. Oh, and they''re proposing another raid in state income tax for the "uber-rich"
     
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    I now work full time so I pay my own way.
     
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    A good Obamacare plan, a Platinum plan (are those even available anymore? I don't know) would be well over a thousand dollars per month!
     
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    And who's fault is that? Certainly not Democrats!
     
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    What part of "The costs and lack of coverage on Obamacare plans are highway robbery." did you not understand?
     
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    What? Democrats are giving away for free what American citizens have to pay for.
     
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    What part of I did not say anything to dispute that do you not understand?
     
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    Wow all of them came for Biden? Lol
    That’s some power right there! Be happy this will probably get them all to leave your state and come here.
     
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    If conservative politicians weren't opposed to free healthcare Americans could have that too.
     
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    Nothing is free. Illegals didnt pay into the system, Americans did. No matter what system we use, American taxpayers paid for it and the illegals who arrived yesterday did not.
     
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    I support healthcare for all, all citizens. Are you an illegal? You don't get it.
     
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    So you "pay your own way" even though you're being ripped off while the old, poor, and now illegal aliens are showing that good medical care is available for pennies on the dollar ... over some ideological lie about being noble ... rather than support free healthcare for all ? Why?
     
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    It's part and parcel of the race to the bottom.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whose pennies are you talking about?
     
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    Sounds good...
     
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    Because there is no such thing as "free".
     
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    Of course there was Trump's idea, force them to have to buy health insurance.

    Of course Democrats refused to go for that, even though it was in fact a rip-off of a Democrat idea (ObamaCare, The "Affordable" Care Act).
     
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    The community chest, which it's provided by tax revenues. If you're going to pay for it, pay for the real stuff!
     
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    Since they are Mexican, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay for their care in, uh, I dunno, Mexico??
     
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