Can we be ready to open schools in the Fall?

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  1. kreo

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    The second spike does not correlate with a number of deaths and hospitalizations.
    That is exactly how virus act after it encounters strong immune system it mutates, (for a simple reason to adaptation to survival)
    Whatever is currently reported is not the same coronavirus that we had in March and April.
     
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    Medical facilities had incentive to report deaths as soon as possible without any delay, in order to receive monetary bonus.
    The chart shows exactly that, big spike in March April and then steep fall in May and June.
    Look at the moving average, it reveals the truth
     
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    You have to look at deaths moving averages, then you might understand that this number is nothing extraordinary.
    But yes, it is possible that coronavirus sped up natural process and caused the death of some people in March and April instead of May and June.
     
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    The header says
    Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19
     
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    Thank you for advertisement link.
    My data is from CDC the website with extension dot gov.
     
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    That website serves as an advertisement resource.
     
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    Yes.

    I'm not sure what your point is in calling out that fact.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is and was no bonus for COVID deaths. Please cite your source, or quit repeating nonsense that suits your narrative.
     
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    Again, there is a correlation between the increased spike of cases and the increased spike of hospitalizations and deaths. But only if you remember that there is a multiple week lag between getting sick with the virus and requiring hospitalization and then ultimately death.

    The spikes of the later are hopefully not going to be as high, in terms of deaths, but that is not because the virus has mutated. It is the still the same virus. The difference is that doctors have gotten slightly better at understanding how to treat covid-19.
     
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    Still pushing the

    "They were old. They were gonna die anyway. It doesn't matter"

    Argument?
     
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    in world war 2 it was Superior work, now it is a welfare plantation

    https://www.yourdictionary.com/close-enough-for-government-work
     
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    Bullshit

    That's a relatively modern right wing concept
     
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    No, that is a modern right wing concept.

    It's no more than a cheap out when right wing arguments are shown to be just plain nutty.
     
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    Says a supporter of tRUMP. Need to put the words in the correct order.
     
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    Yes, The world is an advertisement. Go impeached tRUMP. Who hate America. And so does his supporters. Why do tRUMP people hate non whites and non heteros?

    Tell us please.
     
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    The second increase in infection number started at the beginning of June, how many weeks you think it should lag?
    There is clear discrepancy between death rate and reported COVID-19 cases.
     
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    Yes, but still government source (without ads) is much more credible then website that has intention to sell you something.
    Not sure about non-whites.
    Non-whites have too many special rights and privileges, there is no point to discuss who hates whom until government incentives eliminated.
     
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    So why complain they won’t take a bank transfer or a credit card? Bizarre.
    Not stupid if your business requires it. It’s quite common and safe if you use your head. I’m more worried about civil asset seizures than robbery at this point.
     
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    You have been misinformed.

    In fact, Americans have always known that government was worth next to nothing. That is just an obvious fact of life that Americans with any knowledge of their history know from an early age.
    This is hardly a "right wing" concept. Surely you know that.

    "Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."
    COMMON SENSE, Thomas Paine.
    https://www.ushistory.org/PAINE/commonsense/sense2.htm
     
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    The fact that government is at best a necessary should be apparent to every thinking human being by now. Americans were just among the first to point out the obvious.

    "Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."
    COMMON SENSE, Thomas Paine.
    https://www.ushistory.org/PAINE/commonsense/sense2.htm
     
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    I did NOT complain about that.

    I used the real world as an example of how checks are not at all out of date as a payment method.

    I will continue to suggest that carrying tens of thousands of dollars on your person is just plain stupid.

    In fact, if the police saw it they would probably impound it - especially if you didn't happen to have the right skin color.
     
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    LOL. Ok. You weren’t complaining. You just went on about all the forms of payment they wouldn’t accept. As I said, bizarre. I’m out.
     
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    Yes - that is exactly what I did.

    I pointed out that there are a number of ways to move that amount of money, and checks are STILL superior.

    One can't show that checks are best by just saying "checks are best"!!
     
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