Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by MJ Davies, Jun 21, 2020.
Roughly 3-4 weeks.
So we should see a surge by now.
We do not see it.
And the reason is that virus is not that deadly anymore.
It is only US that has that crazy number of infected solely for political reason.
it is very dangerous to politicize serious issues, like pandemics.
Eventually majority of people will realize that they have been fooled, so the next time when brand new virus strikes they are going to laugh instead of taking precautionary measures.
Yep, today is May 13. I did not know that.
And we had no deaths until March 18.
Apologies - I grabbed the wrong image. We are starting to trend up, again.
we should wait for official CDC data.
But this chart does not match CDC curve from May 15 to July 4.
It is probably taken from commercial (or political) website.
There isn't an ad on the pages.
Now look at Fla. The deaths are climbing in exponential fashion.
School is a go here.
Looks linear to me.
I can't help that.
Did you click on the 7 day moving ave?
If that is linear, then you aren't up on charts.
But if one looks at only a couple data points, all is linear.
I was looking at new deaths, just in Fla.
Last chart on the page. Click on 7 day moving ave.
The things they are having us do to get ready are so strict that it almost makes reopening impossible. 6 feet in classrooms, cannot do that in most of our classrooms due to size, or severely reducing students, which may happen due to virtual learning.
Lunch is a nightmare, one head custodian is usually there during the day, now with the added work load they are looking at 2 custodians there in the daytime, only problem is we don't have the money for it. All water fountains turned off. Lunches served on styrofoam, plastic utensils.
If enrollment goes down teachers will be moved around, or in some cases eliminated.
If only there was some way to electronically disseminate information. Then we could dismantle the 18th century prisons...uh, I mean schools.
Start watching at the 9:00 mark. Firstly, he doesn't even address the dangers and the fears of the parents. But then goes on to say that there are lives lost because students are not going back to school. Can anyone explain that? Does he mean suicide? Does anyone have numbers on that?
The government should govern, not operate schools or coffee shops or hardware stores.
You have a serious deficit in your understanding of the importance of EVERY American being well educated.
Or, maybe you're just trying to be insulting?
You're the one that has to answer for why you hold that view. I can't answer that for you.
Hm, it sounded as if you were saying that it is important for EVERY American to be educated. I asked why?
America's advantage in manufacturing is dwindling as pretty much every other nation can do sophisticated manufacturing.
Our edge (to the extent we have one) is going to be in areas of the economy that depend on education as a requirement - high tech, automation, clean energy, innovation, information, etc.
The jobs that pay our taxes are going in that direction. Our competitiveness with other nations is going in that direction.
There will be always be jobs where those who don't pay taxes can work their fingers to the bone to create a living for their families. And, our education future can not be limited to academic education. Take a look at what electricians deal with today. It is smart homes, not homes with electrical sockets. It's sophisticated controlware of an amazing array of types. Going forward, they will more and more face incredibly smart automation. Look what happened to auto workers and others who simply got left behind after careers of working good paying jobs. We can not pretend that people can have jobs like those good paying jobs and ride their careers to retirement today. And, their success is critical to OUR success. Even just based on tax dollars, we can't let them pass on into welfare mode like we have been doing. We need them to be successful. And, that's going to require some change toward solutions like continuing education integrated in a way so that employees can be learning their next career.
Let's face it. The USA is not even 5% of this world. Our entire allocation of brains, the raw material for our emerging economy, is not even 5%.
We're not going to maintain our standard of living, our international influence (both economic and military), our competitiveness if we don't get every brain we can scavenge up and in contributing order. The other 95% are not sitting on their asses.
There has never been a time in our history when education wasn't so centrally important for this nation.
What is better at producing a product, the government or civil society. Like for instance, do you think that the government should produce all our shoes, and if they did do you think the shoes would be of better quality than those produced by civil society?
I view this as just being silly. We all know that capitalism is GREAT at making shoes. So, whether government could do it better is ridiculous to even think about.
When there is a near term and direct payoff (like the cost of the shoes) you really can't find a better solution than capitalism.
But, that's just dodging the issue of what to do when the elements of successful capitalism are obviously totally absent.
Why is civil society better at making shoes than is the government?
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