Can We Talk...How Has A Black President Worked Out For The USA?

Nicely stated Ex-lib.

The USA, or Obama, recently apologized for the burning of a Koran. I wondered why he didn't take this moment to talk about freedom of speech, how fundamentally important it is, how it supports democracy, that we won't always enjoy what others say or do, but to appreciate their rights to do this without fear of reprisal?

Obama said the burning was not 'intentional' so that should make everything okay...

 

There are fundamental and deep divides between Dem and Rep politics, and arguably growing, but I suspect all of this is exacerbated because Obama is Black...

 

Although you might be technically correct, part of the reason for this thread was to explore issues like this in which if a person 'looks' Black, or more specifically if they don't have White features, then so many label them as Black no matter the details.

In another post I ask what would happen if Obama demanded that he was not a Black man? What would be the backlash?

 

With all of the discussion on this thread, as well as the racial bias in America, it is surreal that Obama was elected POTUS. If he is not re-elected (and cannot be attributed to the Reps pathetic candidates) I suspect this will get some racial coverage in the media...

 

You're making a huge assumption that Cain was 'well received by conservatives'.

Is White now passe?

How about we use the term 'In Atheism We Trust'? Are you okay with this?

I didn't imply anything?? I only ask questions...

 

American voters just elected the least qualified and least experienced president in recent history. Since when are voters paying attention?

 

Wow ... I'm Quaking in my Boots … on such a personal attack .. and you don't even now my first name.

 

We are supposed to be an intelligent civilization but obviously this is BS...because we remain barbaric and incapable of moving out of this racial and xenophobic rut.

When was there a time when White-bread Americans didn't hate someone? The Italians? The Germans? The Asians? The Polish? The Blacks? The Hispanics? Now the Muslims?

Just like much of religion, this type of behavior just points out the gross insecurities in people. We counter challenges by labeling and degrading others...really petty and stupid.

And...to see improvement and more acceptance of others, sadly, will take another 100-200 years of positive evolution...

 

I agree with some of what you say … but pay attention …

In my previous post … “I” expressed that “I” use individuals own words … in particular … Respected United States Political Leaders own “words” .

Not nameless and faceless individuals on an internet forum.

So when Newt, Rick or Mitt … overtly called out an entire Race of People … I take offense and I therefore, place them in the appropriate category suited for individuals who do thing like this.

Say what you want about me ... it's really ok ... because it's the internet and it's safe to be bold and daring.

 

OldMan; The anomaly here is not that Obama is a Black President, but that a Black PERSON was elected, without regards to his Ideology. I'd go so far as to say, as he said in a Florida Campaign speech ("They will tell you I have a funny name...and did I mention he's Black"), he encouraged, almost daring the electorate/media to say anything opposing his ideology, policy or even his very limited history to be classified as bigotry.

I don't know what "dismal performance" means to you, lack of action or adding too much Federal Government into your personal life. He has really been successful in the larger Government and for three years, attaining a larger degree of Social Justice and almost elimination of a Congress for Governing than even the DNC thought possible.

Yes it is, but 50 years ago WE didn't hide every single thought behind some politically correct comment or IMO did blacks in most States feel discriminated against. It was over 50 years ago, while in Texas, at the invitation of a black friend (Ed Sample), I want to his Church. The feeling I got then was they (Blacks) didn't get the respect of the White Community. I'm more familiar with the Hispanic Community, but I assure you, they think the Federal Government is a joke, yet willingly accept all the handouts given and couldn't care less who discriminates against who...

I'm sorry, but IMO VERY FEW people HATE other people because of their color or frankly for their sexual orientation or religion. They might not vote for someone, associate with someone, marry someone or any number of other things, but this in NOT HATE.

It's open dialog, the right to express that dialog that makes a society work. I might not agree with something or someone's idea, but does that make mine hateful...not necessarily.

Cigar, you do realize the peak in your chart was under a FILIBUSTER PROOF Congress 2009-2010 and it was Democrat's that JOINED the Republican to block what were mostly State/Local issues TO THEIR DISTRICTS, appointments and such?

 

Right about what?

Right about what?

Why not?

Who said whites were passe? Have you looked at the Republican field lately?

Doubt it.

Not much. But I think it does make a statement to the world about Americans as a people generally.

That would be a divergence from the norm.

 

I was hoping for a greater stake hold in solving some of our social dilemmas.

 

So do you believe having less success than you expected has anything to do with having a Black president?

 

Not really; in my opinion, it just didn't help as much as I hoped, it would be more useful and appropriate from a chief magistrate of the Union.

 

I wouldn't bring his race into it at all really. Obama has been the same as Bush/Clinton. Big corp/Big Fed-powered corporatism/trending fascist.

That's the devastating trend we are on. Globalization is at the core.

 

Black has nothing to do with it. I would vote for Condi Rice in a Heart Beat. Cain would have gotten my vote. Congressman Allen West looks good.

Obama is just a lousy president. Period. Black has nothing to do with it.

 

That is not globalism, but nationalism and the use of socialism, at the same time.

Our Founding Fathers wisely enumerated only sufficient socialism, to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.

 

It's nationalistic if you consider forcing your form of governance on other nations a form of nationalism. The economics is global, just check out the current tangled banking (*)(*)(*)(*)fest.

 

Actually, I subscribe to the federal doctrine which accounts for States' rights. In my opinion, we should have also exported States' rights along with our democracy product.

 

I agree entirely.

It is not about Obama's skin color, but rather about the Policies he is attempting to implement.

 

Are they right???? C'mon, man. Although I know there is a lot of that attitude amongst **********s and the radical right.