Can worship produce extreme results?

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Do you believe that miracles still happen?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In 1975 I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. I had a lot of
    pain for six or seven years and then at a Messianic Gentile Festival of
    Tabernacles my girlfriend at the time talked me into being anointed and prayed
    for by two pastors and several months later I noticed that I was pain free.

    I worked at forestry for about fifteen years after that and even in very cold and
    wet weather.... .the arthritis never came back!

    I know that what in in this video still indeed does happen:

    James 5

    5:14 "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
    And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him."

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My apologies but apparently this was faked.......








    This is still interesting and possibly useful though because I've read that fallen angels can cause a body to go through contortions that are not normal so...... this could be evidence for the existence of fallen angels that can perform what looks like miracles so.... this could be an example of "real magic"........ this might not be a mere trick but might be something where the power of demons is being shown.

    The pastors who would work with somebody who can do this.......
    which might be allowing herself to manifest something from the dark side..... are dishonouring Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in an extreme way.

    Could this be that the demon leaves her arm......
    and then later she invites it back in in order to do a trick... This all could be useful and could
    turn out to be evidence that there are demons and devils just as
    taught in the gospels.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/24/24/s_953024

    Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

    2Thessalonians 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dennis...it must inherently be faked as a "Miracle" by definition is not possible. While I am pleased your condition was improved it was not due to someone praying....that said, keep on believing as it harms no one.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This may perhaps give us a better idea of what Moses was up against?????

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/exo/7/1/s_57001

    10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so, as Jehovah had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

    11 Then Pharaoh also called for the wise men and the sorcerers: and they also, the magicians of Egypt, did in like manner with their enchantments.

    12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.

    13 And Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as Jehovah had spoken.

    14 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is stubborn, he refuseth to let the people go.

    15 Get thee unto Pharaoh in the morning; lo, he goeth out unto the water; and thou shalt stand by the river's brink to meet him; and the rod which was turned to a serpent shalt thou take in thy hand.

    16 And thou shalt say unto him, Jehovah, the God of the Hebrews, hath sent me unto thee, saying, Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness: and, behold, hitherto thou hast not hearkened.

    17 Thus saith Jehovah, In this thou shalt know that I am Jehovah: behold, I will smite with the rod that is in my hand upon the waters which are in the river, and they shall be turned to blood.

    18 And the fish that are in the river shall die, and the river shall become foul; and the Egyptians shall loathe to drink water from the river.

    19 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and stretch out thy hand over the waters of Egypt, over their rivers, over their streams, and over their pools, and over all their ponds of water, that they may become blood; and there shall be blood throughout all the land of Egypt, both in vessels of wood and in vessels of stone.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually..... technically I don't believe in miracles......
    I believe that we live in four dimensions of space and time and that
    technology exists in fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth dimensional space - time that is beyond our
    understanding much as our technology from 2019 could not have been imagined in 1867.

    I believe that intelligence in higher invisible dimensions can use technology beyond our understanding
    to do what appears to be miraculous but... I have to admit.....
    there are higher dimensional intelligences with less than good intentions in mind who have a vested
    interest in keeping humanity in deception and a lack of clarity.

    http://carbonbias.blogspot.com/

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/george-ritchie.html#a05b

    It is so much better for all of us to deal with our addictions and bad habits here in four dimensional space - time than to leave it until after we pass on!
     
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    I have read that since Egypt was the world ruling super power of that time period that
    after the Exodus there was time of a massive decline in Egypt's military and economic power
    that corresponds with the timing of the Exodus.

    This is interesting:



     
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    Then why attribute anything to the Christian God....why pretend you were healed by its sevants?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm thinking you read things online and believe them to be fact, rather than doing research into reality. That is where conspiracy theorists are made.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least there is footage of these unusual looking things in the Red Sea spanning over several decades.

    https://wyattmuseum.com/chariot-wheels-in-the-red-sea/2011-669
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strangely enough... I would have to give Richard Dawkins Ph. D. credit if
    he expressed the question of perhaps.... there being aliens with off the scale technology
    interfering in human history or our "evolution."

    He actually did do pretty good in this interview but it would be another step indeed if he
    postulated about extra - dimensional aliens not merely extra-terrestrial aliens.




    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

     
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    Here is an update on this particular case:



    The Woman With “The Issue Of Arm” & Pastor Okafor Full Interview | I Went To Several Churches
     

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