Canada has handled coronavirus outbreak better than US

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the Guardian, here: Canada has handled coronavirus outbreak better than US, Trudeau says

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    They have a population that is more subservient and docile. It’s really that simple. And they didn’t have millions protesting for days on end right on top of one another. Americans like to party and didn’t listen to the guidelines. What can you do? Arrest people? We were releasing people from prison over Covid.
     
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    i would go there in a heartbeat if possible. i have italian dual-citizenship so that’s where i’ll most likely end up.
     
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    He's right. Justin Trudeau is smarter, more disciplined, less self centered, and less impulsive than Trump.

    We have the worse leader in any industrialized country, bar none.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    INCOME TAXATION UNFAIRNESS IS ABERRANT IN AMERICA


    We learn by our mistakes, not our successes! The US is fixated on Wealth, when it should be mostly concerned by the distribution of Wealth.

    The distribution of Wealth is a function of taxation. Some people are in a position to make immense amounts of money by means of both fiscal and market methods. All of them thus legal. Nobody seems to think that taxation of inordinate wealth should be a key-measure of our Taxation System.

    What's does Income Taxation Unfairness look like? Consider this graphic:
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    What's wrong with the above table? Upper-income taxation is much too low and allows for the inconsiderately unfair accumulation of Net Income by a "super-class" of people. That lack of fairness consideration actually started with JFK - who instituted the law that Johnson later signed. (Which suited Johnson perfectly because he had a good number of millionaires back in Texas that rushed to thank him.)

    Ronald Reagan then reduced much, much further upper-income taxation and became "Saint Ronnie".

    Taxation should never ever - regardless of Political Party - be in the hands of the rich. The temptation to manipulate it is too great and (in America) really quite easy if one-party alone manages to control all key elements of political governance - that is, the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial.

    WHICH IS PRECISELY WHAT HAD HAPPENED BEFORE THE H-OF-R WAS TAKEN BACK BY THE DEMS IN 2018 ... !

    MY POINT?
    *We need rules that require the American people to vote in all political elections - and the means to do so without having to get into a Voting Booth!
    *A Death Tax on the total fortune is necessary such that Wealth is not handed down from generation to generation. Whyzat?
    *Because that wealth is employed to maintain the status-quo of taxation in the US!
    *Which countries are the most unfair as regards taxation. See this OECD paper here for an answer. Be sure to look at the infographic on page 4.
     
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    the Trump admin repeatedly lies to the people, even republicans did not Trust Trump to lead us in this Crisis
     
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    Other than just another why I hate Trump thread, what is the point of the OP? If the intent is to attract people from the US to move to Canada, I am 100% in favor of that idea planes leave daily and Canada has no taxes and free healthcare. If it is just to repeat what another world politician mumbled, who cares?
     
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    Or, maybe, we don't have anything to protest for. We have free healthcare, government programs for those who lost their jobs, a police force that doesn't go out of its way to antagonize the minorities. And best of all, with all his faults, and he has many, Trudeau isn't a bloody moron like Trump is.
     
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    You can't just look at the total numbers. You have to adjust for population.
     
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    Even then we're better. And no survivors will get a $1,000,000 hospital bill in the mail either.
     
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    They have a population that are cautious and well informed. They are a country that uses common sense and logic. They are a country that trust science over politicians and they are a country that trust their medical community. They are a nation that has a leader willing and capable of guiding them through this pandemic.

    Now let's take a look at how the United States is doing. There's only four states that are seeing a decline in new cases. Connecticut, New Jersey, New Hampshire and Maine. There are 29 states that are showing a dramatic increase in new cases.
    Florida has seen an increase of 1,237% since reopening in May and right now, Florida is the epicenter of this virus and Trump is there today to reassure Roger Stone that he's going to pardon him and to do a couple of fund raisers.

    The goal of Miami-Dade county is to stay under the CDC goal of under 10% infection rate. Instead, Florida been hitting percentages in just the past four days of 23.4%, 27.1%, 28.1% and today 33.5%. Florida's hospitalizations are up 76% and their ICU patients up 86%, ventilator use is up a staggering 124%

    Basically Florida is in free-fall with this out of control pandemic, there is literally no control, not even a serious attempt to control the spread of this virus. They're going in the wrong direction. Florida should change it's name officially to FloriDUH.
     
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    We don’t have anything to protest either. And you wouldn’t have free healthcare if you weren’t our hat and actually had to have a military capable of defending yourselves or shared a border with a 3rd world country. And you barely have “minorities”, nor do our cops antagonize them. That’s another lie.
    But Trump is an idiot just like Trudeau. Just a different type of moron.
     
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    LOL...
    Half of your population have many thing to protest about, your edging closer and closer to civil war.
    You have benefited from our natural resources at cheap price for years. You have whole region who are or will soon be dependent on our water and cheap hydro electricity. How we spend our money is our business and we prefer to spend it on our self instead of wasting it bombing 3rd world countries. Our armed forces are sufficient since we never have waged an aggressive war. And when time came for us to intervene we boldly went ahead and fought the foe with bravery and distinguished service. We didn't wait 3 years for when the enemy was on its knee and then declare victory, which you did twice!
     
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    In Canada or Italy?
     
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    likely sicily.
     
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    I heard it is a very beautiful place. Our first trip to Europe was 20 years to Italy on a fairly tight budget. Our plan was to revisit it along with Sicily this fall. Then the whole covid outbreak happened. Maybe next year.
     
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    Canada has no taxes? From where did you pull that little gem?
     
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    We pay plenty of taxes, but we understand the needs for them. We live in a community and we enjoy the benefits of doing so and that it comes at a price. Those against taxes should try surviving on their own in the middle of nowhere.
     
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    Leftie radio. The tell us down here that everything is better in Canada. Free drugs, free healthcare, No homeless, Free college, no guns, no taxes and they speak French. Ask Tom Hartmann.
    Pass the word.
     
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    Free medical drugs for people in needs and for senior, the rest we have an insurance that pay 85% from our employer, even at minimum wage. We have homeless, but they have access to all the services that every citizen has including healthcare and social services. They also can get free psychological help if the want to. No guns, that's a plus! Never needed one for anything other than hunting. Taxes are comparable to other modern nations. Way less than the Scandinavia nations. French is limited to Quebec and this is good. Mono-culture is a death sentence.
     
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    Pass the friggin word.
     
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    and we appear to be a society that feels no sense of community or responsibility to our fellow man.

    "my neighbor gets sick? **** him!!! he was gonna die someday anyways. I aint gonna wear no mask."

    right?
     
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    Je protest les jens qui ne parlepa Francais. En France, jai rester a lauberge, et lauberge nava pas de beur de peanut. Pourqoi?
     
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    That's what happens when you introduce diversity. Social cohesion declines.
     
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