Canadian police: 10 dead, 15 injured from stabbings

how many of those deaths were prevented by arresting people in their front yard again?

 

Like a dog with its balls cut off, as stated. Still a dog. Ak's are built to the same tolerances whether its auto or semi intended, and if you take a literal AK import from overseas that's been demilled it is STILL an actual AK. ARs don't handle fullauto without a lot more than a DIAS, not that you'd want to use anyway. Because ARs are not M16s, though you can of course buy an AR with the upgraded design because civilian arms are almost always going to be better given equal legal access. If we didn't have to deal with the horseshit that is the NFA, GCA, and Hughes amendment to FOPA, the civilian market would have sturdier, more reliable, yet somehow lighter and able to squeeze a for more cycles per minute, for a ridiculous price compared to the bottom of the barrel, lowest bidder, good idea fairy tainted, bullshit the Ordnance department and its ilk prefer. See: M16 original issue variants where they decided they wouldn't use the lining Stoner designed the gun around, changed the powder, and didn't issue cleaning kits for.

I'm not sure if this was aimed at me or not, but I'm not anti gun.

 

In a representative system, it stands to reason that a people who aren't fit or entrusted to keep and bear arms or govern themselves, is a government that isn't fit to keep and bear arms or govern itself. Otherwise, you morph into a dictatorship. This is why we have prisons and disarm those who've misused their liberty. Yes it is work and tedium. But nothing good comes easy. Shrimp don't jump onto the barbie on their own.

 

This is aimed at people who continue referring to semi-automatics as "assault weapons" and now as "assault style" weapons.

You know, gun-grabbing isn't going to work any more than banning abortion will succeed.

 

On the ground no longer able to attack you.
Your definition and your pithy statement about it will get you a jail sentence when all you were doing was defending yourself. You must restrict yourself to reasonable conduct.
Ergo: Aim better and Mozambique them, don't dump a mag.

 

Of course kids should be taught gun safety at an early age. That only makes sense.

 

If you perform the Mozambique drill, the attacker is dead

If I find myself in an active shooter scenario and I dump a 16 round magazine into the shooter's chest, an I going to far? Do you really think anyone's going to care?

 

Lol your nation has one of the most storied homemade firearms tradition.
And I mean machine guns.
You LITERALLY have motorcycle gangs that produce and sell these machineguns to other criminals.
https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/tag/australia/

 

Yes, yes they are. And you're authorized to use deadly force when you're authorized to use a gun.
That doesn't mean you can shoot them while they're helpless on the ground. That would be intentional murder.
But if you shoot them while deadly force is still authorized when they present an imminent threat, and you shoot well, they still die and you skate.
See how that works?

If you dump 16 in him and in the time it takes you to actually do that he is on the ground no longer a threat, yeah you can face charges or civil liability.
Better to just be a decent shot.

 

That's why you shoot him many times as possible, so you can score more hits before he's "on the ground, helpless", although I disagree that just because an attacker is on the ground that he's helpless and no longer a threat, especially if his weapon is still within his reach. That's why cops handcuff suspects who are on the ground, even after they've been shot.

 

And if you tag him while he's on the ground and helpless you set yourself up for trouble that you can easily avoid.
Additionally: Every time you put a round down range you risk exceeding your backstop and tagging a bystander.
Judicious marksmanship is always appreciated, spray and pray gangbanger movie star ****ery need not apply.

 

If he still has a weapon in his hand while he's on the ground, he's still a threat and you can shoot him.

I agree with the value of marksmanship, but in a real world scenario the "one shot, one kill" philosophy is mostly a myth.

 

So those who feel that are law abiding with a car can choose any type of car of their choice and race it to their choice. So those who feel are law abiding with guns can choose any type of gun of their choice and use it wherever at their will

 

That isn't what anyone is saying. You can buy a car that will do 100 mph, but no public road in the country has a 100 mph speed limit. Anyone caught doing 100 mph on a public road is getting cited, probably going to jail. But, as long as you abide by traffic laws, you can own a car that is capable of 100 mph. The same standard should apply to firearms.

 

There's a difference. You can go to jail for owning a 'machine gun' or a hand gun without license.
But you are legally ALLOWED to own a gun. Many in my rural district own rifles and shotguns - but for farm use. Never seen a handgun here.

 

I am not talking about gune safety but personal security. When there's repeated attacks on schools all kids, from the age of 5, should pack a gun in their lunch box. Outsiders will see this as a failure of America, but Americans won't.

 

you clearly didn't bother reading what I wrote. regulations on cars generally involve USAGE-=-no gun owner opposes laws that say prevent recreational rifle shooting on Times Square or shooting pigeons with a 12G in Central Park. So stop misrepresenting what I said

 

following comedy routines in real life doesn’t exactly work out. Just because something makes the news doesn’t mean it’s commonplace, but you’re not going for reality you’re going for small sample fallacies.
Oh, and you guys still have gangs shooting each other and criminals with guns, btw.

 

Comedy routines? You believe that arming children to help defend themselves against school attacks is comedy?
No my friend, 120,000 Americans shot each year as the price for 'security' and 'freedom' is the real comedy to outsiders.
You know, don't you, that in England you can get 15 years for possessing an unregistered gun and being unlicensed? Britain doesn't have much of a gun problem. Same with Japan.

 

yeah, it is comedy.
Why would you use stats that include suicides? Japan doesn’t have a culture of criminal behavior like the US, that’s a pretty poor example. The UK still has a murder problem, and they cannot defend themselves with a weapon.
Not very bright. We also do not have a police requirement to intervene and save people.


Pretending all countries have the same culture is incredibly naive.

 

I understand that English police don't carry guns. Can't confirm that.
They do where I live in Australia. But gun deaths are rare. 3D printed weapons could be a problem in the future.

 

It's rediculous comments like this that causes all anti-gunners to lose any credibility they might have had.

What needs to happen is schools need to be secured so that a shooter can't get into the building, or on campus at all for that matter.

 

And that's unconstitutional.

 

Again: Those laws you've got created the hottest black market for machineguns in your hemisphere of the planet.
You don't see them so they don't exist eh? Ostrich defense is a bold strategy to be sure.

 

That' not per se how it works, but you've been warned the stove is hot. Enjoy your burned hand, it teaches best. Though what worth the lesson will be to you then is lessened in this case.

In a real world scenario, mag dumping and announcing online in social media traceable to you that you will do so, is a good way to go to prison. I didn't say one shot, I said 3. If you can't hit your target with 3 shots and stop it: improve your aim, and stop carrying a .22short and carry a man's weapon.