Chaos in the Caribbean

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  1. DoctorWho

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    You do not measure anything or operate anything as far as selling those products, that is done in the lab by naked ladies working at large tables.

    Street level dealers only sell prepacked drugs of known weights.
     
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    You got it in one. Ten bucks gets you this, 20 gets you this. Don't ask them to do simple math.
     
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    When I was Undercover doing
    Buy & bust operations, they sold slightly overweight quantities to give better quantity, so $10 was closer to $15 and $20 was really closer to $30.... etc....
     
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    Not everyone is strong a fit. Some are old and unable to defend themselves. Some are petite women. Some are handicapped. A firearm is the great equalizer.
     
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    I'm 73 with the loss of use of a limb. I don't carry.
     
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    Your choice of course, you seem however to be taking a moral highground, I carry, why ?
    After much service, LE, etc....... I saw much preventable death, a stint in Prehospital Emergency Medicine helped convince me further.

    A good Man or Woman without a Gun facing a healthy attacker is a victim, an Armed Man or Woman is a Victor.

    I prefer to be a Victor.
    Is that any real guarantee ?
    Perhaps not.

    A dear freind of mine was ambushed in his home by 3 robbers, one stabbed him in the back with a bayonet from his wall.
    Before he died, he killed two robbers, first, the guy that had stabbed him, killed the second guy, and as he died, wounded the third man, later arrested at hospital.

    It is better to die Armed.
     
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    Thats your choice. Not everyone is as comfortable as you exposing themselves to a possible assault, or worse.
     
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    Amen to that...
     
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    I have a brain, beats the hell out of a gun for avoiding "assault, or worse" any day of the week. Just ask the crowd in Las Vegas last night.
     
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    Just think about the folks that have a brain and a firearm for self defense.
    Many successful firearm self defense stories are in different local new outlets everyday.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-robbery-suspect-shot-to-death-in-hammond/
    https://foac-pac.org/Louisiana-Self...-Homeowner-Before-Shooting/Defense-Story/1713
    http://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime...llage-apartments-ppd-investigating/692418001/
     
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    "brain and a firearm"

    Outside the home, and where there's dangerous game, that would be an oxymoron.
     
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    Why would it be an oxymoron? People can't get training and jump through the hoops that it takes to get a carry license? People and their families don't get assaulted or raped or murdered outside the home?
     
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    Sure, I jumped through hoops, have a license to carry, but I don't carry. Now, is that my choice, and do others have a right to make their choice? Of course. I'm just posting in here to say, you can work dangerous jobs, as I have, you can be confronted with persons holding a firearm, as I have twice, and use your brain to protect yourself. You don't have to carry to be as reasonably safe as anyone can expect to be during a lifetime.
     
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    That would be wonderful if everyone's assault was under the exact circumstances as yours.
    The fact is people and their families are raped, murdered, assaulted inside and outside the home everyday.
    Successful firearm self defense stories are reported everyday.
     
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    Yeh, well, if it was reasonable to carry the 90% of us who don't, would, instead of only the 10% who do.
     
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    If people don't choose to carry, I am ok with that. I still will.
     
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    So as a Police Officer, I should have used my brain rather than carry a sidearm ???
    I carried off duty too, walked right into a few liquor store robberies too.

    Facing an Armed Criminal high on Meth, don't expect a reasoning individual, or facing a criminally insane mental patient.

    You must as a LEO be in full possesion of your mental faculties and use your "Brain" to stay out of trouble.

    However, you will often face people that are not.

    You might encounter a rabid animal.
    Or a farm animal that needs to be put down.

    There are many reasons one should be Armed.

    Legitimate reasons, Logical reasons.
     
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    13 million have carry licenses. Just because you don't carry doesn't make it unreasonable to carry. Just ask those that have needed to defend themselves. Happens everyday.
     
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    90% of Americans don't carry. Many of the 10% who do have some kind of weird gun complex.
     
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    What 'weird gun complex'?
     
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    I don't know, you'd have to ask a psychiatrist.
     
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    I see, but you somehow figure those that carry gun have a shared complex.
     
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    Looks like it. A psychiatrist might be able to expand that to a few different possibilities, but that a significant number are a bit weird should be obvious.
     
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    No, they choose to make their families safety and security their responsibility instead of putting into law enforcement hands that may be several minutes away when they are needed most. Successful defensive firearm uses happen everyday. If they didn't, violent crime stats would be higher.
     
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