Charles McVety Ph. D. vs P. M. Justin Trudeau!

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Is Charles McVety Ph. D's position politically dangerous?

  1. No.. he is correct.....

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  2. Yes... he is falling into a political trap....

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This response from a related thread might just save this discussion.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...or-my-ignorance.405527/page-4#post-1068583800

    My 2007 anti-abortion e-mail to my M. P. Peter MacKay and my apology for my ignorance
    .......




    I have to admit that there is a percentage of Canadians who would tend to agree with FoxHastings in this assertion.


    This is from page 4 of that discussion and you might want to go back to post #1 on page #1 to get the context........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ackay-and-my-apology-for-my-ignorance.405527/
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    One I like better is

    ""Trudeau stands strong for democracy and rights for EVERYONE and refuses to let religious extremists run Canada"





    I'm sure there are .....I have always known MOST Canadians were decent, fair, democracy loving, rights loving people.
     
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    Thank you for replying into this topic FoxHastings.


    To be fair I should copy the text of what Charles McVety Ph. D. wrote:


    "No bible believing Christian can sign such a document therefore the result is clear, Christians need not apply." (Charles McVety Ph. D.)


    Actually........ I am a Bible believing Christian.... and I probably could sign that document with a relatively clear conscience ......but........ if my job ever presents me with the necessity to do that.... I am fairly certain that I will refuse to sign this document even though I am aware that the Pro-life vs Pro-choice questions is significantly more complex than Dr. VcVety believes it to be. The reason I am fairly certain I would refuse to sign it if forced to make that decision is that this political gambit by P. M. Justin Trudeau could economically marginalize a segment of the population of Canada who deserve much better treatment than this.

    I am not exactly on the same page as Dr. McVety and ......
    I already put up a discussion about a woman.... who had a near death experience... who reported feeling NO CONDEMNATION from Messiah Yeshua - Jesus or from her own children who she had previously had been aborted........as He took her to view the children who were in a part of heaven for aborted children.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-for-women-who-choose.518819/#post-1068259119

    Near death experiencer shown no condemnation for women who choose....

    ... .to terminate the life of their unborn child.
    Condemnation..... is not the point of this life..... or of any of the choices that we make while we are here in four dimensional space - time.


    Mrs. Ariela Solsol Pereira's near death experience from 1967 has the power to transform the way that many of us look at the question of abortion.

    ......

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20509374-divine-truths-revealed

    DIVINE TRUTHS REVEALED
    by Ariela Solsol (Goodreads Author)

    ...
    ..... but..... Canada allows abortions to occur right up until the ninth month of pregnancy so for P. M. Trudeau to expect agreement on third trimester abortions from all Canadians reminds me of what Adolf Hitler did during the 1930's to marginalize the Jews and other minorities.
     
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    I am all for decreasing extremism.......
    from both the political left as well as the right which is one of the reasons why I began this discussion:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...erstand-nde-comments-on-gay-community.323598/

    Sincere apologies for taking 5 years to understand NDE comments on Gay Community!



    I find that what was shown to near death experiencer Christian Andreason about the question of homosexuality..... reminds me greatly of The Sermon on the Mount so......... I also am not on the same page as Dr. McVety on this idea either but...........

    P. M. Trudeau is still initiating a political gambit that could have terrible long term consequences for sincerely religious people who yes...... may not have the best understanding yet of the scriptures.
     
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    P. M. Justin Trudeau is somewhat too angry with Christians who attend church regularly and take the Apostle Paul seriously..........
    as is evidenced from his comments to Pastor Steve Long and Pastor John Arnott and their wives a few years ago:

    Actually...... Pastor Steve Long was correct though that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus wanted Mr. Justin Trudeau to lead Canada's Liberal Party..... perhaps partly because G-d.... wanted Canadian Christians to confront certain important questions at this time.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-being-of-light-of-nde-fame-g-d-or-satan.445248/


    The being of light of NDE fame, G-d or Satan?

    ....
    It seems to me that we are in a situation somewhat like the time of the Prophet Elijah.

    1Kings 18:21
    "And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word."


    I began to study these experiences a great deal back in 1990. They immediately made me realize that the "soul sleep" doctrine that I had been taught was almost certainly in error. I got kicked out of two churches due to disagreements mainly over that doctrine. But as a Christian there was no way that I could deny the possibility of people having an "out of the body experience!"

    2 Corinthians 12:2
    "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; such an one caught up to the third heaven.
    And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;"
    How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

    But I know that many Christians struggle with these accounts..... partly because they are offended that people are shown going to heaven who have not "accepted Yeshua - Jesus" in quite the same manner that they did?!?!


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html

    Howard Storm Ph.D:
     
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    Surely we Canadians can learn something from what is happening south of our border.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...vors-protection-act-congress-must-pass-it-now

    Pass the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act
    ....
     
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    I definitely have to be able to find this again.......

    https://thebridgehead.ca/2018/02/09...-who-laughed-at-peoplekind-comment-are-nazis/
     

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