Chemical Gas Attack Appears Staged-fake

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  1. One Mind

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    We best hope that those people who believe everything told them by their gov't with no evidence given die out sooner. For they have amnesia when it comes to what took us into Iraq. Which makes them the actual idiots here. And in fact a great danger. No different than the germans under the Nazis, the same kind of people, brain dead, herd animals. You could not speak truth to power under hitler, and yet there were what you would call tin foil hat people talking amongst themselves about the Hitlerian propaganda. You would have just believed the Nazis. Anyone else who questioned them, would be idiots, tin foil hatters to your mind.
     
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    They at least try to present evidence. What do you have? The word of our gov't and MSM? LOL Give me a break.

    You believed the lies that took us into Iraq, obviously, and never questioned it. What does that really make your opinion, now? Nonsense.

    The few who didn't believe the lies that made us invade Iraq, were smarter than you, as they are this time. They were the winning intellects, and you guys are still losers.
     
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    You have it backwards. The multiple terrorist groups, who are mostly non Syrian, are the bloodthirsty(wannabe) dictators, trying to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria, which government, headed by President Assad, is supported by the vast majority of Syrians, and is fighting to preserve Syria from the monsters seeking its takeover. I'm convinced that whatever our governments reasons for blaming Assad and bombing one of his air bases, that it has nothing to do with Assad. Maybe it is to thwart Iran down the road. I don't know. But I'm convinced that the "Assad is a monster" excuse is pure BS or propaganda.
     
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    Because it was not planned correctly for Congress. Obama could have done what Trump did but he was too chicken.
     
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    This guy is likely a Russian troll, as are those who liked this post
     
  7. One Mind

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    Perfect propaganda to back up lies on assad using gas. It appeals to the more juvenile minds, right behind comic books.
     
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    So to be the best kidnapper, money launderer and drug smuggler that he could be, Bashar Al Assad went to college, learned to speak several languages, and studied to be an eye doctor. Yup, makes perfect sense. :spin:
     
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    Of course they have it backwards. But one wonders if they actually believe what they are saying. For me, I doubt it. Unless these people are just pathologically irrational, and are not capable of thinking critically. I just do not believe they are. So, they are worse than the local village idiot, for he cannot help it and was born in such a way.

    The thing is, these people have never been right, and yet they do not learn from their mistakes, and I doubt if they want to. Why they do it, hell, I dunno. I could understand it if they got paid to go to forums and social media as propagandists, for then they are just doing a job to spread misinformation and an attempt at manufacturing consent amongst the less bright among us. But if they are not paid, and honestly believe what they post, then that would be a part of the explanation of how America has turned into a nation of war mongering, and just look at what their lack of astuteness has created in the middle east. The middle east looks like a tale told by an idiot, and more of the same idiocy will yield what it has yielded to date.
     
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    To get away from the terrorist war against Syria. You are aware that the terrorists murder and torture anyone who doesn't support them or who supports Assad?
     
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    As soon as I saw George Clooney, I knew that it had to be.....

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    Really? Are you claiming all the times Assad used chemical weapons were "faked"? Why are you repeating Russian talking points?
     
  13. One Mind

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    Unlike those who share your opinion, this group is very credible, with professional experience. Here, since you never looked at the article, let me reveal who they are, and they are not Russians, nor trolls, and anyone who would post the link you dismiss so cavalierly could be just an intelligent American.

     
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    I don't get it either. Unless it was years ingesting media propaganda. Assad had tentative support from the US to work with Russia to eliminate ISIS and ensure Assads government. So why would he jeopardize that by using chemical bombs on civilians. It doesn't make sense. That's why I don't believe it.
     
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    I'm in Santa Barbara California and I disclose knowledge of the concealment of treason.[​IMG]
    But, perhaps you are an infiltrating agent paid to attempt to conceal treason of another type.
     
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    Obama The Worthless:
    August 20, 2012. “We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus. That would change my equation.”

    August 21, 2013. Major chemical attack on Ghouta, Syria. Approximately 3,600 people killed or injured.

    August 22, 2013. Crickets.

    August 31, 2013. Obama says he will ask Congress to authorize him to do nothing in Syria. He says inaction “risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemicals weapons” and that it put U.S. regional allies that share a border with Syria in danger.” Pay attention to this:

    Yet, while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective.

    September 3, 2013. Senate Foreign Affairs Committee holds a hearing. Committee passes resolution by 10-7. Please note that the Senate was Democrat controlled.

    Democrats:
    Bob Menendez, New Jersey Chairman – yes
    Tom Udall, New Mexico – no
    Chris Murphy, Connecticut – no
    Ed Markey, Massachusetts – present
    Barbara Boxer, California – yes
    Ben Cardin, Maryland – yes
    Jeanne Shaheen, New Hampshire – yes
    Chris Coons, Delaware – yes
    Dick Durbin, Illinois – yes
    Tim Kaine, Virginia – yes

    Republicans:
    Bob Corker, Tennessee Ranking Member – yes
    John McCain, Arizona – yes
    Rand Paul, Kentucky – no
    Jim Risch, Idaho – no
    Marco Rubio, Florida – no
    John Barrasso, Wyoming – no
    Ron Johnson, Wisconsin – no
    Jeff Flake, Arizona – yes

    September 4, 2013. “I didn’t set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world’s population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use even when countries are engaged in war.”

    September 6, 2013. Harry Reid files the resolution. Whip counts indicate senators were lukewarm-to-negative about the resolution.

    House schedules testimony from John Kerry. Initial whip counts show the resolution is not a huge favorite with anyone. Even among Democrats who had decided on how to vote the resolution would fail by a 2:1 margin.

    September 10, 2013. Syria agrees to give up its chemical weapons. Obama does a victory dance. No further action is taken on the resolution.

    Let’s review the bidding: Obama waited ten days to decide to punt the decision to the Congress. When he did punt, he said he didn’t need to ask them but he was going to be a nice fella and do it anyway to make the little people feel involved. It was almost as if Obama consciously tried to poison the well with the House. Afterward, how did he react?

    Early in the Syrian civil war, Obama publicly drew a red line concerning Assad’s behavior, but later decided to forgo military strikes, even after being presented with near-definitive proof that Assad had crossed the red line in grotesque fashion. Obama was widely criticized at home and abroad—particularly by the leaders of many U.S.-allied nations—for behavior interpreted as feckless and weak, but he later told me, in one of the interviews I conducted with him for a 2016 article on his worldview, that he was “very proud of this moment.”

    “The perception was that my credibility was at stake, that America’s credibility was at stake,” Obama explained. “And so for me to press the pause button at that moment, I knew, would cost me politically. And the fact that I was able to pull back from the immediate pressures and think through in my own mind what was in America’s interest, not only with respect to Syria but also with respect to our democracy, was as tough a decision as I’ve made—and I believe ultimately it was the right decision to make.”

    The “immediate pressures” he successfully “pull[ed] back from” was the pressure to attack Syria. He never intended to strike Syria and cynically used the US Congress to give him cover for his decision.

    So no, Mr. Lefty. Congress never stopped Obama from attacking Syria. Obama had decided he was not going to attack and used Congress as a human shield.

    http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/04/07/no-mr.-lefty-congress-not-keep-obama-attacking-syria/
     
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    Why do we care? Being savage is their culture. If Assad thinks this is needed to gain back control, so be it.
     
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    Actually, not being a fan of Obama, the facts here might be inconvenient. Obama asked congress for their backing, in regards to assad and those other gas attacks, which led to him disarming himself of chemical weapons. At least his declared ones, which had verifiable paperwork. But congress never gave it, because....listen up...the outrage of americans who had elected Obama because he also ran like trump on getting out of these foreign wars, and interventions, bombed DC with phone calls, emails, etc, to stay the hell out of Syria. This was revealed this week by a congress critter, the replacement for Ron Paul. So congress never went through with it.

    The policy that gave a president the right to act without congress only pertained to the terrorists, of the 911 attack and not carte blanch, to do an attack of this nature on a sovereign nation, even Syria. Rand Paul just said anyone who claimed contrawise was a liar.
     
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    Oh, what a pity! Once again ISIS supporters provide proofs of Assad's atrocities.

     
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    Can you give a link to the source?
     
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    But apparently he didn't disarm himself.

    We were told that he destroyed all his chemical weapons.

    Obama brought that on himself with is policy to pull out of the ME.

    Apparently not because Trump has not been brought up on charges. Destroying chemical weapons that are ILLEGAL is protecting the U.S. from terrorist attacks. Can you imagine terrorists getting their hands on these weapons and blowing them off in say...NY?
     
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    Interesting remark. My girlfriend said the same thing to me. It'd sure make things a lot simpler...at least for awhile.
     
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    Terrorists kill not only those who support Assad. Terrorists also kill representatives of other religions. Including Muslims of other faiths.
     
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    Because no international commission could prove the guilt of Assad. All Assad's accusations of using chemical weapons are based on speculation and are not supported by facts.

    If you do not agree with this, you will prove the use of chemical weapons by Asad and I immediately admit that I was wrong and you are right. That Assad is a criminal who needs to be eliminated.
     
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    Assad's planes were used to drop the chemical bombs according to U.S. military surveillance/intel/photos, etc. In addition, Russian drones were seen over the area after the attack and Russian and/or Syrian warplanes blew up a hospital where victims were taken in a probable attempt to cover-up the use of Sarin gas which is reportedly a tactic used in the past.
     
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