Chick-fil-A to End Donations to Christian Charities after LGBT Backlash

Okay, now show proof that Muslims want gays to have zero rights. I'll be surprised if you cite equivalently weak sourcing! I wonder why...

 

You're not suggesting that conversion therapy is FORCED on people are you?

If it could be proven, would it change your argument?

 

Well Chick-fil-A had nothing to do with any of these efforts did they? Remember, it's Chick-fil-A that we're talking about here.

 

Executed for being gay Horrifying moment ISIS killers push gay man off roof in Iraq as children are forced to watch

 

You realise that my challenge was to cd8ed?

 

That should be their choice once they are of legal age — I am also against transitioning prior to that age — and it should be their sole decision.

I would even go as far as to say it should be an available treatment covered under a national health program.
We should be finding ways to help people suffer less in a world full of suffering, if someone believes conversion or reprieve therapy can do that for them then who I am to stand in their way?

 

Do you want examples in the United States or examples overseas?
I am sure I can find several.

The reason that Christians are focused on so intensely in domestic discussions is because they are actually involved in much of our legislative agenda. Other religions scope of influence is very low. I can probably find some by people practicing Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and Judaism if you would like?

What is the point of this exercise?

 

I never said it had anything to do with CFA, you asked “How is merely BELIEVING in the Biblical definition of marriage the opposite of treating people with kindness and compassion?”, was that question limited to CFA because I took it as a general question.

 

I am, indeed, suggesting that conversion therapy has been forced upon many young people. In fact, in 14 states, LGBTQ youth are protected from being forced into the therapy. And it is a horrible thing, to force another to feel 'less than' simply for who it is they love. Suicide rates in those who participate in therapy are double those of the youth who do not.

 

I meant it in relation to CFA in reply to @Pants who was defending her position on CFA being anti-gay.

 

Well then I assume that you're okay with it if people choose to get the therapy.

Got data for that?

 

According to new research by the Family Acceptance Project, rates of attempted suicide by LGBT young people whose parents tried to change their sexual orientation were more than double (48 percent) the rate of LGBT young adults who reported no conversion experiences (22 percent).

Suicide attempts nearly tripled for LGBT young people who reported both home-based efforts to change their sexual orientation by parents and formal intervention efforts by external parties, such as therapists and religious leaders (63 percent).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ion-therapy-lgbtq-law-harm-column/2413310002/

 

Christianity does not evolve.

 

While I am not as cynical as that that statement suggests, I would hope that you are incorrect.
Your statement does prove however, that some people never evolve regardless of their religious affiliation.

 

Perhaps you don't understand the concept of "Holiness". It does exist and it never changes. Your frame of reference seems to deny the existence of One that is Holy. That is where we differ. There are absolutes in my own frame of reference. Personally, I can" evolve" closer to meeting that goal of Holiness, or I could evolve to regress from that.

Let's just acknowledge that we see things differently. I am familiar with all the godless slams against what I believe.....they are old, subjective and worn out. Maybe the word "Christianity" is confused between us. I'm not talking about denominational differences. I speak of the Body of Christ and it's endeavor to be pleasing to Jesus the Christ. Within most denominations there is a remnant that still holds true to that desire. It does not change. He was the same yesterday today and forever. Anything that opposes that is not Christian.

One thought to consider.....it seems most who like to use the word "evolve" always seem to believe the word evolve means "change for the better" why would it never entail "change for the worst"?

 

Yet you felt like you could accuse them of not being inclusive.

 

Muslims tossing gays from rooftops qualify.

https://apnews.com/bc4cf13c2b41454b...ate-group-targets-gays-brutal-public-killings

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ib...-accused-homosexuals-roof-video-2519915?amp=1

This one, they threw rocks at the corpse after they tossed the gay from the roof top.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...for-being-gay-mob-pelts-corpse-with-rocks.amp

I guess dead wasn’t good enough.
They needed to throw rocks at the corpse too.

 

So they shouldn't be able to choose that therapy? If they want to change their orientation, why do you care? The former head of the American Psycological Assn. said he has seen in his practice people changing their orientation, and that it is about as treatable as anything else people are counseled for. He also said the decision to remove homosexuality from the list of disorders was political.

 

It would be nice if atheists would evolve.

 

The Peoples Republic of China is their largest model. In America, we still hold "In God We Trust" as our motto! Thank God!

 

One of the great untold stories is that at the time of the 1949 Revolution, there were about 1 million Christians in China, today there are over 100 million. There are more Christians in China than Communist Party Members.

 

Almost like a plague... funny that...

 

and many are sent to re education camps.

 

The Communist Party? True.

Your kind have been trying to stamp out Christianity for 2,000 years, since there were only a few hundred Christians. There are now 2 billion and counting.

 

Ah the generalizing of the right with no evidence. Don't worry, it won't be deleted.

The bottom line is that its your side that has gone extreme creating laws to protect their feelings from being questioned. There is no law anywhere in the US that states believing against Christianity is a hate crime but plenty that if you point out scientific evidence against your beliefs it can be considered a hate crime to do so. Quite a turn of events. The persecuted become the fascists using the courts to silence anyone who doesn't fall in line with your beliefs.

And when that doesn't work your side targets the livelihood of your political adversaries just as the Nazis did to the Jews in the 30s.