Chick-fil-A to End Donations to Christian Charities after LGBT Backlash

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  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...They hate losing money more than they hate gays.
    It ain’t rocket science.
     
  2. FatBack

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    Your right, which makes me wonder why you think gays would suddenly start eating there. Fact is, they trounce Micky Ds. Starbucks and Subway combined on unit earnings, sounds like they are really "suffering". Might I recommend them for your breakfast, tomorrow?
     
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    Not a fan of most boycotts over political stances, including same sex marriage . My stance was fairly simple here . I believe that conversion therapy involving minors is closer to psychological abuse than therapy. I could not provide a dime to Chick-fil-a as long as their donation strategy supported organizations that endorsed or recommended conversion therapy. That ended, I think around 2005 if I recall my research. I did not care a whit what the CEO did with his personal money and I was not willing boycott based on indirect links like charitable donations to organizations with 'discriminatory practices' such as the boy scouts. As a matter of fact, several gay rights advocates had seen sufficient progress to retract earlier calls because negotiations had proved fruitful enough. But media did not seem to let this drop with story after story so that people had the nagging feeling everytime the name came up...

    This is another step to try to repair the brand, and it has to be stockholder driven.

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    Have their earnings gone down over time or up?
     
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    I have no idea, but I suspect there are those on the board who think that the pace of any earnings rise has a bit of a rock attached. Somebody thinks the company can ill afford this image problem in a very competitive market of fast food.
     
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    Their business boomed when they stood up to the bullying by the usual PC nazis. The founder's dying and no longer running the company is more like the real reason; new management prefers not donating to anything. Their business will probably drop off now,as they will be seen as caving in to the outliers. The lines around the two local franchises every day nearly all around here are out to the streets, so it's just crazy to assume their 'brand' needs repairing. That's obviously just wishful thinking by those who got laughed off the parking lots with their 'protests'.
     
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    So you think the new management wants to lose money, knowing that their business decision would be cast in the very light, you are spinning onto it, and watch all those lines around the block turn into lobby room deserts, just cause they hate charitable donations that they were recouping on tax day?

    What do you make of this paragraph "
    The U.S. fast food chain said that as it expands, it will no longer donate to the Salvation Army, the Paul Anderson Youth Home, and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, which opposes same-sex marriage. The company’s charity, the Chick-fil-A Foundation, has donated millions of dollars to the two organizations.

    “We made multi-year commitments to both organizations and we fulfilled those obligations in 2018,” a representative for Chick-fil-A said, saying the chain will now focus its charitable donations on “education, homelessness and hunger.”

    The franchise, famous for closing on Sunday, plans to donate a total of close to $9 million to charity include a $25,000 to a local food bank for each new restaurant the company opens.

    I am thinking my theory explains this better than yours does.
     
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    I think it stupid to knuckle under, they are very successful and likely the fascist they bowed to, were not eating there, nor will they begin to eat there, the PC assault will now, ramp up.

    You have no idea about their earnings but you say the brand needs "repairing"? What do you base this on, while admitting you dont know about their earnings? I think it more likely, post 81 nailed it, just getting "woke" as leadership is changing.
     
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    LoL . You and I have a fundamental difference in view on how these boards tend to make decisions. They know their profit margin, and they know which markets and stores are providing it and they know where their stores are not. I think they know their numbers backwards and forwards and sideways and they know their future business strategy for the next five and ten years a lot better than you do, I think they have access to internal documents that you don't and I think they like money a lot more than they care about being 'woke'. There is a fiduciary interest either long term or short term in separating themselves from those 'Christian based' charities of their past towards more secular charities, or they would not be doing it. I trust them to know their business model, their customer profile and where they want to growth better than you.
     
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    OK, care to post the proof? Nevermind, you presented it as opinion. I have posted the proof of how they earned more than Micky Ds, Starbucks and Subway...Combined, per unit, in 2017 at least. More than you can say, you erroneously stated the brand need "repairing" with zero proof. I'm sure all businesses would crave such need of "repair". lol
     
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    Their earnings are fine; the old man who founded the company died and the son has different ideas about where to donate money; they're starting their own food bank operations, for one. Homosexuals are just trying to spin some 'victory' after their ludicrous boycott turned out to be a miserable failure that backfired on them to save face, is all.
     
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    Now reread my post and PAY ATTENTION. It presupposes that armchair micromanagers like yourself, who do not have access to sufficient and in-depth analysis what is actually happening on the ground and what their business model for growth looks like for the next 5 or ten years , might make superficial judgements based on 'earnings reports' and other publicly available data. They know their job and company better than you do, Fatback, and they know what their expectations are for its future and they probably have a pretty good idea of what impediments there are to that business plan.
     
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    Pandering to LGBT will be their downfall.
    LGBT is an unconstitutional special right group
     
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    Marriage is a union of one man and one woman, no matter what LGBT says.
    LGBT is illegal and unconstitutional by definition.
     
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    Irony in the extreme, you first admit you know nothing of earnings, but sit here and play like you are some board member, with savy and "insight" into the corporate, mechanism. So post a modicum of proof.

    You just got done telling us they needed to "repair" the brand after admitting you had no clue about earnings, yet you profess to preach at me...
     
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    Or of two women, or of two men.
    False
    Also false
     
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    A bigot died and was replaced by a non-bigot.
    End of story.

    Seems to be a trend
     
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    It is only in your mind.
    Gay marriage is a corrupt politics and insult on human intelligence.
    The only completely brainwashed person can believe in nonsense like gay marriage.
     
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    But, they could have realized that religious argument against special LGBT rights is not working.
    With all respect to the religion, the religious argument against special rights for homosexuals is stupid.
     
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    And it's not like the LGBTQ+ group are inclusive of Christians is it.
     
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    Yes, the Salvation Army is known for its bigoted practices...
     
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    You seriously don’t know a thing do you? If the bottom line was the ONLY thing they cared about they would be Mcdonalds or Burgerking.
     
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    Not sure what Girl Scouts not good enough means but allowing gay scount leaders was criminal. Opening up to girls in Boy Scouts is just nonsensical.

    My daughter got tired and bored of the Girl Scouts ( by 5th grade) and when we asked her why she stated it in a very adult way - all we do is meet and you send me out to neighbors and grandmas and aunts to sell cookies ( she had both grands alive back then) watch you guys ( parents) go crazy bringing cookies to ever parent in my troop. Dad gets pissed when the same people claim they were short Every time. We were cookie coordinators / distributors.
    She was right so we let her quit Girl Scouts. It was all about funding GS headquarters. The kid was right she saw through the BS of GS.
     
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