Children and masking

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Many people seem to want kids to wear mask to school. That's a bad idea. Just watch adults in public. They reuse mask, they are continually touching them with their bare hands, then touching other surfaces, thus cross contaminating them. And dont even tell me "well, they are not wearing them properly".....That's a given, you aren't going to change that in adults and certainly not with kids.

    Not only will kids do the same but you can add snot and saliva all over the mask. So you have what amounts to a virus laden petri dish on their faces and the little cherubs will be touching all over them, then touching all over everything else.

    Now I'm no Dr but did tattoo professionally years ago, thus I'm aware of how cross contamination works. It really is common sense. Imagine touching raw chicken in your kitchen and not washing your hands.

    You don't need a degree to see the simple logic there. But many of the faithful in the Church of mask will pretend none of that matters. You really have to pretend not to understand it or just flat out ignore the reality of having what amounts to a virus sponge on kids faces.

    Yet the ''best and brightest'' minds out there, are saying nothing about it. It seems like compliance is more important than that simple fact. Spit and snot WILL be all over these masks and kids WILL be touching them and then touching everything else. There is no denying this in good faith. But I suppose when you are agenda driven, you sorta HAVE to ignore such common sense.
     
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    Good lead report about masks on Tucker Carlson FOX channel news show tonight [his show repeats at midnight central time.]

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    We dont even need any news shows or ''experts'' to see this. Like I said, it's just common sense, adults can't even stop touching the damn things, much less seem to be able to find a trash can to throw them in. Masks are like the new straws, in terms of common litter.

    I propose the term ''common sense'' be stricken from the American lexicon.

    Thanks for the heads up on Tucker but I can't watch, will be leaving for work soon.
     
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    Not to mention a box of common ear loop mask, has a disclaimer printed right on it that it WON'T protect against Covid 19.

    Simply coughing into your shirt instead of the open air, is as likely effective at stopping areosol droplets. Some folks shirts probably get washed and changed more than a mask.
     
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    Mandating children to wear masks is child abuse!

    Ireland decided NOT to require their children to wear masks because the harm outweighs any benefit.

    PRIMARY SCHOOL students in Ireland will not be required to wear face-masks, the Department of Health confirmed on Thursday
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    After an assessment, HIQA [Health Information and Quality Authority] determined that transmission between children, and onwards to households, has been low throughout the pandemic, reducing the necessity for protection.

    They also noted that mask-wearing may exacerbate anxiety or breathing difficulties for some students...

    ... There is concern regarding the potential harms or disadvantages associated with face-mask use... the potential for anxiety or the potential for negative impacts on development of human communication and language skills, particularly for very young children.

    more at link

    https://www.irishpost.com/news/prim...ce-masks-department-of-health-confirms-205417

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    Not in the least.
     
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    I'm not surprised you want to mandate school children wear what some are calling "wet face diapers"

    Thank God an intelligent member of my family is going to continue home schooling.

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    A mask stops Covid like chicken wire stops mosquitos.
     
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    Mandating children to wear masks is child abuse!

    NOT IN THE LEAST.
     
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    I'd like to have some of you folks that think masks are a great idea to seriously explain to me why they are not a germ magnet especially on children and a source of cross-contamination
     
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    I find it interesting that the senator Cruz from Texas and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis both have school aged children in private education. Both schools have a mask mandate which both politicians abide by, without protest!

    Hypocrisy has a nasty stench about, don't you think?
     
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    There are several other threads on that topic I'm just curious how people feel about forcing kids to wear a face mask that's full of germs and possibly viruses they're going to touch and then touch and cross-contaminate everything else with. On the separate subject of private schools that's an arrangement between the parents and the schools that's not something that they were forced to do
     
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    So none of the mask advocates can deny this common sense but yet they still think it's a good idea to force kids to wear these masks wake the hell up
     
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    According to Tucker Carlson anyone that forces a child to wear a face mask is tantamount to child abuse and should..., nay MUST call it out! It is beyond private arrangements between schools and parents. It is child abuse!

    Indeed, I suspect that Tucker would approve the idea of ordinary folks, rallying at the private schools, protesting the
    abhorrent child abuse those children are forced to suffer!

    To your other point... your freedoms allow you to wear a dirty mask under your nose, with nostrils exposed making the mask futile!
     
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    I'm not so much in the child abuse camp as I am that 99% of people that wear them tend to do so improperly and that would include virtually all children and my contention is that they're spreading filth possibly doing more harm than good. However there may be some merit to the other argument human development relies to some degree on facial expressions it's kind of hard for children to learn facial expressions when everyone's in a mask
     
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    Someone should tell Carlson anything can be labelled as child abuse. All it takes is for someone to see a child being forced to eat X, wear Y, participate in Z etc that the person concerned disagrees with and 'bingo' it magically becomes child abuse.

    There are animal libbers out there who would see a Dad teaching his kid how to fish and label it 'child abuse'.
     
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    children will be children so i agree that they will probably not make effective use of the masks.

    the only alternative is remote education, for as long as it takes to get this disease under control.
     
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    Not protecting your child from a deadly disease is child abuse
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/health/coronavirus-children-delta.html
     
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    Actually I would dispute that - kids are usually more compliant and yes there are little twonks but that is true for Adults too. We are not and will never get 100% but 50% reduction in transmission would be a BIG win
     
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    The mask mania is not based on science. The CDC and NIH are ignoring the studies they commissioned.
     
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    Face masks: what the data say
    The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8

    How much evidence is enough? No amount of evidence is enough to overcome Trumpette's politicized, irrational beliefs.
     
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    I am torn on the idea of kids and mask and am really glad I no longer have school aged children.

    I do support the right of the local school board setting policy on this.

    Last night I had dinner with a good friend from the church I used to attend. His son just got back from Marine Corps Boot camp and we got together to swap stories from 30 plus years apart. We got on to the subject of COVID and he told us that 22 members of our former church have COIVD right now, all were exposed at a youth camp they took the youth group to. Two of the adult leaders that were with them are in the hospital, one was put on a vent the night before last. The youth camp was a mask free event, this was the result.
     
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    Ya all my masks are filthy. Good point on the coughing in the shirt idea.
     
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    It's not child abuse, that's sensationalist garbage.

    But Fatback is probably right about cross-contamination.
     
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    Did he make that policy?
    Is he sending his kids their because they have a mask mandate?
    That's the only way you could view them as a hypocrite.
     
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