China considering deploying military to Bagram airfield

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  1. Pred

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    Kissed his ass or stroked his ego once? Learn the difference. You really want to compare who was more critical of China? Are you kidding? Troll elsewhere.
     
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    Condor060 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wow, Someone got them feelings hurt. lol
     
  3. Darth Gravus

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    I am sorry, I did not mean to hurt your feelings. I will try and remember to wear my kids gloves with you from now on
     
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    Condor060 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, you've gone from the ole trump worshiping bit to, I know you are but what am I?
    Any other of those priceless quips you want to share. They seen to be getting more adolescent with every post.
     
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  5. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Though I agree, we win through independents, you are newly registered. Most of the name calling like Jihad Joe is a direct result of 5+ years of absolute ****** baggery from the other side about Trump.
     
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    So, what you are saying is that there is no difference between the two sides?
     
  7. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't see anywhere near the childish, immature, complete nonsense during Obamas term that we saw during Trump.

    I mean ****, there are still a bunch of loony bins infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome in the forum now. They simply can't engage in the debate with out Orange Man Bad.

    Nothing like that has happened before.
     
  9. Darth Gravus

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    I think it has been growing with each new term. What Bush II went though was worse than what Bill did, what Obama went through was worse than Bush, what Trump went though was worse than Obama and now Biden is getting it worse than Trump did.

    Both sides do it and both side blame the other side for their actions.

    It is the old "well they did it first" thing that we teach our children is a bad way to go.
     
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    Lol once?
    You’re kidding right?
     
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    LOL. How far do you want to troll trying to compare Trump and Biden and their attitudes towards China?

    Next you’ll claim Biden was hawkish on Immigration, hahahahaha.
     
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    Which of Trump's actual policies towards China has Biden changed?
     
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    Show Biden blasting China as much as Trump. Show Trump defending China as much as Biden. Don’t bother because we all know. This is such an idiotic hill you’re trying to defend.

    I won’t entertain you any more. Back to watching tennis.
     
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    Words are meaningless, I am talking actually policies.

    Too many people are so smitten with words vice actions

    But hey, enjoy your tennis. I am watching the Diamond League finals and college football myself.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You think Biden is getting it worse than Trump? Seriously?
     
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    Yes, Biden is getting it worse from the right than Trump got from the left.
     
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    Xoe Bi Den. Jihad Joe. Love it! Lol.
     
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    As unfortunate as it is this was inevitable. Trust me I know the frustration that goes along with hearing about stuff like this. Words cannot describe how I felt in the early 2010s as I watched video of American humvees and even TANKS with ISIS black flags on top rolling through OUR FOB's and outposts in Iraq. And I mean no disrespect whatsoever to American civilians but when I say "our" it's literal, not metaphorical. Like literally, I watched ISIS cheering and putting up black flags on MY base in Iraq. And I will admit, it was extremely satisfying when we got the green light to go back over there and whoop their asses all the way back to Syria. It was personal, global politics and strategy and all that be damned. This is my base, I slept and worked and suffered and took bottle water showers and starved and fought and lost people on that base. And they were on it when we left. Hell no. It had nothing to do with furthering American global agenda or regional strategic positioning or anything, it was vengeance.

    The logical part of me says who the hell cares what happens to Iraq? Last time I checked I saw exactly nothing at all in my house that said "Made in Iraq" on it so why do I give a damn? But the trained fighter in me overrode that big time and said the bastards need to pay for flying black flags on our bases in Iraq, and pay dearly they did, and to this day I am extremely happy that I was able to personally help them pay for that.

    Afghanistan is no different. Whether it's the Taliban or ISIS-K or Al Qaeda or China or Russia "somebody" is going to be flying flags on MY base in Afghanistan. And yes trust me when I tell you my blood is boiling, this has been an extremely difficult past few weeks for me and many of my closest friends. More than a handful of video calls and tears and rage was shed between us all over these past few weeks. And trust me when I tell you I want nothing more than to get the phone call saying we're going back and we're fixing this mess. They are going to PAY for this. I'd do it for 100% free and I'm not joking, damn the taxpayers checks who fund my salary to do my job, it's not about money or American foreign policy, I have enough money now I'm fine. It's about vengeance and honor. Bagram is OUR base. Not "our" base, OUR base, and I would be on the first plane out of here immediately if the DoD asked for volunteers from the force to go reclaim it.

    The only difference between the logical half and the fighter half of me now as I'm much older is the fact that I know in my heart one of them is "right". Afghanistan is a lost cause, this was inevitable, leaving was the right choice (not the way Biden did it by ANY means that was a disaster worthy of impeachment at a minimum). That is the correct answer. But even saying that the fighter in me would have my rucksack ready standing on a tarmac for a one way ticket to Afghanistan right now if they let me because that half of me overrides the logical half even to this day.

    So trust me when I say I know your frustration and pain. But sometimes we really do have to tame our emotions and listen to our logical brains. And I will say that openly as a 100% pure hypocrite because I will shout that from the rafters yet if I was given the choice to stay in my comfortable house in America in my robe or donning my gear and grabbing my weapons and making sure the damn Chinese don't put their damn flag on Bagram then I'd be on an airplane to Afghanistan right now. Even though I know it's stupid and futile.

    So no I don't blame how you feel. But I implore you to listen to the logical half of ME, the same logical half of me that even I myself don't have the ability to listen to. Let them have it, it's not worth it anymore.
     
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  19. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NM, I’ve come to appreciate your insightful posts and you need to do it more often. Drop the Staff Member label and join us more frequently with your thoughts.
     
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    Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that if we want to win in 2022 and 2024 we have to attract the middle and you just turn them off by being childish name callers. Make them look like the bad guys.
     
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    Lmao.
     
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    funny how after Trump got the position suddenlty invanka and jared made alot $$$.
     

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