China coronavirus: Death toll rises as more cities shut down

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  1. Reason3415

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    The wonders of socialized healthcare:

     
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    A rough estimate of the case fatality rate of a coronavirus, according to official data.

    In China, death from a coronavirus is not counted if a chronic patient dies from an organ failure associated with his chronic disease. Therefore, during the SARS epidemic in 2002-2003, Canada had a fatality rate of 17.1%, and in mainland China only 6.6%. In China, other standards of medical statistics. Obviously, it will be exactly the same now. Actual fatality may be much higher than on this graph.
     
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    There is speculation that the coronavirus is an ethnic-specific bioweapon.

    Coronavirus: Russian media hint at US conspiracy
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51413870


    Has anyone seen any articles that give a breakdown of the victims by ethnicity?
     
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    Indeed!

    It's amazing that these workers are dedicated enough to be willing to try to bring in people who have infections these terrible disease into the hospitals.

    In the USA when the Coronavirus get here wholesale, anyone fighting like that will just dumped onto the ground (to infect more people). Of course, large numbers of people who are sick will be shooting people to avoid being brought in. I can't even imagine how things are going to be in a month or two.
     
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    I suppose its to be expected from China...don't be conned by the reduction in corona virus victim figures
    coming out of China. They have simply changed the definition of a victim to reduce the numbers.
    If a patient tests positive to the virus, but has no symptoms, they will no longer be regarded as a confirmed victim.….
    And of course, with various links now suggesting that isolation is needed for 21 days, not 14 days as previously advised, one wonders just how many countries will now extend isolation to the 21 days now recommended.....
    The WHO meanwhile, now states the virus has reached "the tip of the iceberg"...
    A little hypocritical perhaps when one considers they were originally appeasing China and stating
    that the Chinese government was doing a wonderful job of containment, and countries worldwide
    should not curtail travel to and from China.....
    The mind boggles.....particularly when we read that five million people were permitted to leave Wuhan
    before they even told us the virus existed...weeks later.....
     
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    Getting ridiculous:

     
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    The corona virus has shown a 2% mortality rate, so far... Its up to 4x more deadly than the flu.

    You should check out the Chinese government efforts, they are pretty impressive.

    This video is two weeks ago, so we already have more up to date info.

    But its about the efforts of the Chinese government.


    The censorship argument is bs, in my opinion. You cant censor something you dont know about. They knew, but they did build 4 freakn hospitals asap.
     
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    Read this morning that in the USA, when one keeps a doctor's appointment you have to get through a guard station asking if you'd been experiencing any coughing, etc. If the answer is 'no,' you are given a yellow sticker with "2-12" on it, representing the date. Is that true?
     
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    When I start seeing **** like this, it's gonna get real. Dumbasses eating Bats and Rats, it was just a matter of time.
     
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    Yikes!:

     
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    Kind of surreal whats going on in China...

     
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    It looks like someone also may have the TPS
     
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    More intersectionality:

     
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    Interesting guy, certainly a bit alarmist, but the numbers are not being covered, for sure.

    I might guess that he may be a little ahead of the timing for China's peak crisis, but it is maybe 10 more days to really get the bad there, so it's not a big difference.

    Sadly, China is probably better prepared compared to most of the world, although some parts will be somewhat better prepared too. European and Canadian Pharmacy practices may mean better stocking of drugs.

    It would have been nice for the USA to have done a little bit to prepare rather than massively cutting our health abilities like the CDC and other preparedness. Massively increasing prices for even generic or other medicines have already cut amounts of stocking of medicines, so it's kind of an "anti-preparedness" attitude towards preparing for pandemic, but that sometimes is the American Way! People have world wars on their own soil can remember bad times a little better!

    Thanks for the link! I will be watching his channel.
     
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    I hadn't thought of this, did anyone else:

     
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    This is what I am afraid of. Professor Jack Rasmus, an economist at St. Mary's College in California, gives an update report on the coronavirus. The link below goes to his weekly podcast on economics in which he first speaks of the accelerating spread of this virus. China is placing portable mass incinerators at some Wuhan hospitals in preparation of the beginning of a 'worldwide spread' of the virus Chinese officials warn.

    Alternative Visions - Global Economic Contagion Channels: From China to Rest of World
    Feb 21, 2020
     
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    Fewer new cases in China:

     
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    One day after downplaying the outbreak on national TV, Iran's Deputy Health Minster, Harirchi, today confirmed that he has cronoavirus himself.

    Don't worry, the Stock market is soaring, and the Mafia Bosses are in control! Never been better! %100 percent great--not bad. However, if it goes bad, then it's someone else that is responsible. Fox News Is Covering For Trump's Coronavirus Sabotage
     
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    They seems to be blaming the opposite things for the epidemic:

     
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    Is she playing into stereotypes:

     
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    I was doing my check up a week ago.
    No such thing.
    Receptionist just asked if I was in contact with anyone from China.
     
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    He gave no assurance. He said hopefully it will die as the weather heats up... which is what the corona variants have done before this one. It is expected that this will be the behavior, but we must prepare for it to not.

    not that you’re into facts. Gonna be fun come May.
     
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    An American returning from China suspected he had the corona virus and visited his local emergency room. He was tested for the virus and found to be negative. Great!

    ...$3,270.00 bill sent from the hospital starting a itemized bill. And this is only the beginning. You are on your own. So do you think people are now going to report symptoms?

    Highly efficient systems have no resiliency, and easily collapse.
     
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