China threatens to Nuke Japan

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    You could be right... but 1.4 BILLION people can gobble up a LOT of food very quickly.

    That, plus distribution infrastructure in Russia east of the Ural Mountains is still relatively small-scale and way behind the standards needed to move enormous amounts of food a very long way to China on a recurring basis.

    Put another way, I just don't see how Russia could feed China in the short term needed to 'spool-up' next-gen capabilities in China, or even come close to it, without causing serious shortages in Russia....
     
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    What makes you think they buy Japanese cars any more than they do Swedish, South Korean, German, Tesla, other American?

    Now mind you I did hear rumours they all buy Subaru Forresters.
     
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    The Chinese eat rice, and to be honest I don't know if they import it or not. They probably do - and maybe even from us. That's where their problem would be because I remember reading something about a shortage of rice in the Far East, and that the prices had gone up a great deal.

    The Russian grain would be to feed the animals and its exported from Vladisvostok in the Far East as they do their LNG gas. Workers from N. Korea are used to ship it, since the city is less than 100 miles from the N. Korean border.

    To be honest, I always felt that the only reason we have problems with North Korea. is because Washington wants to use its proximity to Vladisvostok to contain Russia. Other than gas and oil, grain is now Russia's major export. They pushed out the US and Canada since Russia's prices are more competitive.

    If China had to buy up Russia's wheat, it would be a boon for the US, Canada and Ukrainian grain market. Of course I'm just speculating,
    I really don't know.:confuse:

     
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    You should read the above and the actual laws in China

    If you actually look at the laws in regards to foreign workers, its restricted to international companies in China who MAY be allowed to employ foreign workers. If you look further at their laws they can only do that if no Chinese person is capable of doing the job if its in China. China has no free trade agreements providing fast track of foreign workers. Its extremely regulated and can take up to two years to process.

    When you do see such jobs they are actually to hire foreigners because they need them to engage in marketing and or overseas in their respective foreign countries. So its very rare inside China.

    Also most Chinese companies have no problems recruiting back former Chinese citizens who became citizens in other foreign countries after going to school in those countries.

    China is actually quite "racisty" in business practices and does not like to hire non Chinese people even outside China. Push come to shove they prefer dealing with Chinese ex citizens before other foreigners.Go find out for yourself.

    China is not and has never been multi-cultural in the sense of hiring non Chinese ethnic people. Its just a fact. I know this from having taught Immigration Law and worked as a consultant for some companies with China and with bith ex Chinese patriots and foreign executives. China will hire non Chinese for its companies overseas yes...but back home its rare and if it happens its a very small sub niche of jobs.

    The vast majority of people in China who work are manual migrant labour and no they do not bring in foreigners for that. There is no shortage of manual labourers just the opposite. In fact China is under constant crisis mode trying to keep its manual labourers working. If they do not work, and they become unemployed there will be street riots. China knows this.

    So its under constant pressure to create and enforce manual jobs as a way to control its masses from having nothing to do. Unemployment in China unlike other countries would be a social disaster.

    What China is also doing is taking back the money earned by its tiny middle class. Within another year or so the only people with any private wealth will be members of the inner upper echelon of the Communist party. There is a panic now to try get money outside of China but China has tight control of its banks and Chinese currency outside China is meaningless. It has to be changed into American dollars or Euro dollars before it leaves and that is now very hard in China to do if not impossible,

    This is precisely what is happening in Hong one of the last vestiges of private wealth holdings. Its all being traneferred out in elaborate schemes. China actually has millions of con men who rip their fellow citizens off promising to smuggle their money overseas.. Chinese have also fallen to scams on the internet and people pretending to be foreign lawyers and businesses seeking their investments.

    Within the next two years there will be a huge crack down to the point the stock markets may be closed if China rebounds back to Maoist like control of its economy.

    The current head of the Chinese Party seems to be very into state regulation and swing back away from individual business incentives. The experiment with limited inside China capitalism started by Diang Xiaoping and that lasted for many years seems to be undergoing severe changes. Two current Vice Premiers, Liu He and Han Zeng sound like classic Stalinists in their references to the economy.

    China keeps its internal economic policies tighly held secrets until announcing them and then suddenly they announce them to catch people off guard from hiding their money. Chinese have nothing to spend their money on within China. The things they can buy are all restricted.

    They used to send their children overseas and invest in foreign high schools and universities and hedge on their children becoming foreign citizens so they could retire as sponsored relatives with their children outside China. The Chinese government allowed that for years. Now its cracking down on spending any money outside China including buying real estate outside China.
     
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    Doing your Yogi Berra imitation?
     
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    Trotsky was irrelevant.
     
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    Irrelevant to the USSR, but not to the Washington Trotskyites.


    Washington Ideologues
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    Take that you fools of misery.
    For we the gods of lofty see,
    are watching you from our great height
    and snicker at the motley sight
    of lesser beings, not as bright as we.

    For as you know we're keen and wise,
    that's why we delve in tricks and lies,
    so we can rule your land and State
    and become masters of your fate.

    For unlike you the lowly fools
    who follow banal moral rules.
    We make our own, for it's our right.
    And why we reign in our great height;

    and not on earth, but in our stead

    of hubris and of bloated head - Jeannette

     
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    Very informative!:oldman:
     
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    :) pretty sure they are hire americans.
    https://fuyaousa.com/ also smithfields is own by china, pretty sure ppl work in there are americans
    https://www.madeinamerica.com/chinese-investors/

    china does hire foreigner after they show local how to do stuff. ethiopia train construction is prime example

    honestly most stuff you said is not true. they do have decent amount middle class. oversea chinese student is close to 500,000. also they are big spender of tourist in EU/NA etc.
    there are scammer etc, but just like anywhere there are scammer.
    you sound like gordon chang who predict china fall 20+ years ago, and counting...
    chinese still buying real estate overseas, covid made it harder though
     
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