China threatens to Nuke Japan

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  1. Poohbear

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    I don't think US was 'defeated' in Afghanistan - essentially the job was over when Al Quaeda was destroyed.
    Staying for the 'nation building' will be up to history to figure out.
    But essentially for this topic - these battles hone American military skills.
    You need a blue water navy for strategic reasons. It's fair to say none of us know what a nuclear war will look
    like - but disregarding 'boots on the ground' and old fashioned navies and air forces could be a tragic mistake.
    Allies are super-critical - China isn't just opposing America, there are 20 nations with border disputes with China,
    including India and Japan. Together the nations of SE Asia, with NATO etc are more than a match for China in
    an all-out war.
     
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    Taiwan makes all our computer chips, so there goes our computer tech and economy with it. Back to the stone age. Thanks a lot free trade!
     
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    So..... Sabre rattling.... pretty boring. Not even a statement by an official rattling at that.
     
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    You say that while Al Qaida was just 3 weeks of fighting, top of my head. And the other 20 years was fighting the Taliban.
    The US got beat, and ran of with their tail between their legs. Beat by 3rd world goat herders.
    You think China noticed it?

    You mean that NATO who also gave up in Afghanistan... and them allies who helped out in Iraq, failing to secure the country.
    It was Iraq with the help of Iran who turned the tide of ISIS in Iraq. And as reprisal, the US executed the Iranian military leader.
    We all know what Iran did in return. They tested their laser guided missiles and knocked a couple of 100 soldiers into the hospital.
    All according to their plan, since Iran warned them first.

    China must have noticed the US could not do a thing against it, while knew the missiles were coming because Iran said so.
    You think a China got impressed? lol
     
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    Are you saying the Chinese are like ants?

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  6. Joe knows

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    You really think anyone is that crazy? I hope not
     
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    That's the problem. China, like Korea have historical grievances with Japan, so there's a lot of animosity and distrust. The Rape of Nanking comes to mind, among other unimaginable atrocities, so any move from Japan against China opens quite a few wounds.

    China seems to have a two fold reason for saying it will nuke Japan. One is to tell them to butt out if they don't want to be nuked again, and the other to remind them what country it was that did nuke them in the past.
     
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    This was about a poster saying "I reckon, with some help, that Taiwan could liberate China"... that would involve a military intervention. Lets not kid ourselves.
     
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    Uhhh! I thought the Soviet Union died 30 years ago? But have no fear, it's being revived beautifully by Soros and the Washington ideologues and within our own domain.


    When Satan Reigns
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    Whatever's false they'll say it's true
    and throw the lies back onto you.

    And what is right they'll say it's wrong.
    Then woe to all, it won't be long.

    When everyone will wear a frown.
    For what is 'up', they'll call it 'down'.

    Then try to make the day a night

    so dark can reign, without the light. - Jeannette

     
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    Putin says he wishes the Soviet Union had not collapsed. Many Russians agree.

    A day after unveiling dramatic new weapons — including a nuclear-powered cruise missile — that sparked talk of a return to Cold War tensions, Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested that he'd reverse the collapse of the Soviet Union if he could.


    Putin's comments on the 1991 fall of the U.S.S.R. — which bound Russia and many of its neighbors while exerting influence in Eastern Europe and abroad for almost seven decades — came at a question-and-answer forum held Friday in Kaliningrad. Taking questions from the audience, the Russian leader was asked what event in his nation's history he would have liked to change.

    "The collapse of the Soviet Union," Putin responded, according to the Russian news agency Tass.

    ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...apse-of-the-soviet-union-many-russians-agree/
     
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    Chinese aggression is an extremely serious problem. Let's not pretend that a series of angry tweets from Trump could solve this. The election of Joe Biden has substantially improved world confidence in American leadership. This will make it easier for President Biden to deal with this.
     
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    I agree too. I dislike abrupt political changes. I think the world would be a safer place if the Soviet government still existed, but if it was peacefully and gradually becoming more democratic. That was the direction the Soviet government was moving in under Mikhail Gorbachev.
     
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    I think the government of Taiwan should announce its willingness to unite with the mainland, but only if the mainland adopts a democratic government with contested elections, and open political debate. The Chinese Communist Party would still exist, but it would compete with other parties on equal terms. The Communist dictatorship would not like that proposal, but it would help Taiwan diplomatically.

    It is hard to evaluate public opinion on the mainland, but I doubt that there is much support for an aggressive, unprovoked war with Taiwan.
     
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    Why should we imagine it would be growing more democratic? It's a long-running fallacy on the part of westerners to think that these regimes will all give way to democracy sooner or later. Democracy is a rather rare and modern phenomenon, all told, and it has historically actually given way to authoritarianism as well. Repeatedly.
     
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    Trump threatened to nuke many things, not just countries
     
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    He threatened North Korea with nuclear war, and he did it on Twitter :laughing:
     
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    As you should be well aware... at the time, I was interested in Putin.

    After 21 years of Putin constantly praising and promoting Stalin's marxist RED ARMY victory... those RED ANTS may speak Russian.

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    I don't want to do chest puffing, I just realize that Japan is a US ally and we didn't even let them have a military for a long time because of their actions against us in WWII.
     
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    That’s funny. You actually think Biden is taken more seriously on a military standpoint? He was part of the administration that allowed Syria to gas their own citizens. He’s a joke
     
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    What country did he threaten to nuke during his presidency
     
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    The irony is... the fathers of the atom, hydrogen and neutron bombs... Oppenheimer, Teller and Cohen, were jews [as was Karl Marx.]

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    Putin also said that anyone who doesn't reminisce about the Soviet Union doesn't have a heart, and anyone who wants it back doesn't have a brain.

    When Putin mentioned the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was in reference to the Russian people living on Russian lands, and who are now suffering under apartheid conditions under foreign leaders in places like Ukraine, Estonia and Latvia.

    He blames the ideologue Lenin who was a revolutionist and not a statesman and who ended up destroying a system that took a thousand years to form. Because of what Lenin did, and cannot be undone because of Western intransigence, Putin foresees Russia being dragged into another war.



    And why not? If there was a better transition of the USSR back to its original roots before the ideologue Lenin and his criminals robbed and destroyed the country, the 20 million Russians who are living on former Russian lands, and are now pawns of the West under apartheid governments, would not be suffering.

    But for anyone to think that Vladimir Putin a devout Christian, would want a return of the communist and atheist system is a little ridiculous. But it does make good propaganda for our anti Christian and Russophobe ideologues.

     
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    think about it for a bit, I will post a link later, I thought you knew and supported Trump?
     
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    If you’re talking about North Korea it wasn’t a threat. It was a reminder that we have a bigger arsenal of nukes than they did. (The bigger button comment)
     
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