China to provide 2 billion doses of vaccine to world this year

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.

    They've even changed their economy to be a little more capitalist in order to enhance their economic progress.

    They are dedicated.

    And, their rapid economic growth and world wide influence growth demonstrate that success.
     
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    I noticed. It bothers me that others haven't. We can't fix a problem unless we accept that it exists.
     
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    I find this statement by that Chinese professor highly incorrect. There's hardly any low accessibility in developed countries. Many first world countries have more than enough vaccines, some have donated hundreds of thousands of doses to poorer countries. Efficacy seems to be declining, but that is a problem every country has, has nothing to do with developed countries. Plus, I don't see how competition on the international market makes it more difficult to choose vaccines. His arguments hardly make any sense.
    Pretty much everything that comes from an official Chinese source seems to be almost poisoned by their political agenda. They made up a Swiss biologist called Wilson Edwards, created a facebook account and had this non-existing "expert" spread anti-Western propaganda which was then cited in all major newspapers across China. It stopped when the Swiss embassy in Beijing heard of this and publicly asked who this biologist Wilson Edwards is. Suddenly, Mr Edwards' facebook account was gone.
     
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    My friend Vietnam told me they have 1/10th of the vaccines they need if they are to vaccinate everyone. She says more vaccine is expected... in January.

    Vietnam borders China, so maybe China will help them. Vietnam is also a somewhat popular tourist destination for the west, so maybe Europe and America will help them.

    I think it is likely even more dire in poor countries that are not bordering rich countries and are not tourist hotspots.

    That's what happens with one party rule. The "news" there isn't what happened, but what the CCP wants you to think happened.
     
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    I have NEVER heard ANY even slightly reliable source suggest there aren't serious shortages of COVID vaccines throughout the world.

    And, there are startling cases of extreme shortages.

    This has come to the point that the US is strongly considering pushing aside the patents that some vaccine producers have, so that the US government can make a more serious effort to reduce the extreme shortages that exist.

    >>So, please cite a reliable source that suggests there aren't very serious shortages.

    Maybe you have a cite concerning Brazil or India or the nations of Africa.
     
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    Just about everything coming from any government is to advance their political agenda. What does that have to do with the vaccine shortages and lack of financial resources to purchase adequate supplies for governments in less affluent countries?
     
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    I didn't say there aren't any shortages and I didn't talk about "throughout the world." My point is that there are countries that have sufficient amounts and don't experience any shortages. I also specifically talked about first world countries that the guy in the Chinese article mentioned.
    Britain
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56672504
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...l-second-doses-health-officials-say-ff59065q2

    Serbia has the strange problem of having vaccines for their whole population, but not enough people being willing to take them.
    "We have this unique privilege to have enough types and quantities of vaccines and we should use it," Dr Adzic Vukicevic told Euronews.
    https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/03...e-put-the-handbrake-on-serbia-s-rapid-rollout

    Same in Switzerland. Enough doses, but fewer people willing to get vaccinated
    [...] now everyone over the age of 12 can get the jab.
    https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/corona...nd-is-suffering-from-vaccine-fatigue/46826278

    Germany: Everybody who wants to get vaccinated can do so, no shortage.
    https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/...vid-vaccines-available-all-what-you-need-know
    Germany gives more than two million doses (Moderna) to the EU to be distributed to other European countries.
    All AstraZeneca shipments for August are donated to Covax. (source in German).
    https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/moderna-impfstoff-lieferungen-101.html.

    Dutch GPs wanted to donate tens of thousands of AstraZeneca doses which are not needed in the Netherlands to Namibia. The law, however, doesn't allow that..
    https://nltimes.nl/2021/07/21/netherlands-throw-away-tens-thousands-astrazeneca-vaccines-report
     
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    Yes, first world countries such as the US, EU and UK are doing well.

    But, that is MY point, NOT YOURS.

    The problem is that the vaccine is not getting outside the first world at the volumes that could be considered ethical or effective in reducing COVID world wide. Besides fairness, let's remember that we'll get more variants such as the delta variant if we ignore the fact that this is a world wide problem, not a country by country problem.
     
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    I decide what my point is, not you.
     
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    From the article: "The law sates that medicines that have already been delivered to doctors for their patients may not be traded. Not even when it is free and for a good cause," a spokesperson for the Health and Youth Care Inspectorate said to the newspaper.

    I wonder why such a law was even passed. I'm going to see what I can find out about that.
     

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