china was a very backward counntry in history for 2000 years

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  1. hkisdog

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    SFJEFF, you must be a very unsmart person.
    Frankly, Not smart.

    (1) since you also know the fact -
    china invented writing only about 3500 years ago,
    so the so-called 5000 years chinese civilization is a completely joke.



    2) Then the fact was not come form a BS website, right?

    3) you said "Experts believe that it is likely only three civilizations invented writing independently- Mesopotamia(around 3200 BCE), China(around 1200 BCE) and MesoAmerica(around 600 BCE)",

    SFJEFF, can you give the referencnce?
    and how about india?

    4) you said "Of those three cultures, only one is still in existence today."

    SFJEFF, you are silly, since china was so weak, and was invaded so many times,
    Example china was ruled by manchus for 300 years, the population rate was 1 manchu : 100 chinese.
    Then how come china was the only one still exist? even chinese F word was from mongolian. sorry to mention this.


    SFJEFF, you have to think before talk, understand?
     
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    The so- called advanced ancient chinese technology is a joke


    Example, about 600 years ago, china made a big Punt (ship).
    and some chinese believe it was the most advanced ship in history.

    lol, hahahhahahaha


    Chinese treasure ship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_treasure_ship
    A Chinese treasure ship (Chinese: 宝船; pinyin: bǎochuán) was a type of large wooden ship in the fleet of admiral Zheng He, who led seven voyages during the ...
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    Whatever dude.

    Your posts prove my point better than anything I could say.
     
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    Chinese governemnt was agrarian, necessary to have soldiers. When the Song dynasty tried to commercialize they were conquered by the Mongols.
     
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    Your points about being ruled by Manchus are very stupid. The Chinese do not care origin, if they rule well they have the mandate of heaven.
     
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    He may be Japanese, but he may be Europeanas well. The Japanese would not use European critiques of Joseph Needham to prove their point. This person is obciously anti Chinese, which is high in Europe right now in certain circles.
     
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    Well for some dumb backward people, they are about to become the richest nation on earth. For Americans being so smart, we helped them do it while making such dumb moves.
     
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    Perhaps. But the whole tone and style and syntax are more in keeping with an East Asian and given the recent events - witness what happened in Vietnam this past week - I'd bet anything the guy is Japanese or Vietnamese. The info he is just copying. He doesn't have first hand in-depth knowledge. This guy is our version over here of a stormfronter from the US. Just as loony and hateful. And with similar grammatical skills.
     
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    Nat Turner, I think you are a very stupid person.
    And you are not a highly educated person.


    Because you can not prove what I said are wrong,
    you only can say: "I'd bet anything the guy is Japanese or Vietnamese."


    Nat Turner, it proves you are a silly person.
    By your silly logic, I could be a Mongolian, Indonesian, Korean, even Filipino.
    They all have not so good relationship with china.
     
  10. hkisdog

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    hahhahaha

    Nat Turner, what a silly person.


    Because you can not prove what I said are wrong,
    you only can say: "I'd bet anything the guy is Japanese or Vietnamese."


    Nat Turner, it proves you are a silly person.
    By your silly logic, I could be a Mongolian, Indonesian, Korean, even Filipino.
    They all have not so good relationship with china.
    Example, there were 100,000 chinese were massacred in spanish ruled Philippine, sorry to mention this.
     
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    china was very poor


    1) In the past 2000 years.
    There were more than 110 great Famines in china, people even had to eat people to stay alive.

    2) In 1959-1961. . there are 30,000,000 chinese died in starvation.
    Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    3) in 1960's, chinese defence minister Peng Dehui said many chinese had no pants to wear.


    4) in chinese ming empire - general Lu Xiangsheng said that, many chinese soldier had no pants to wear.


    5)in WWII, chinese soldiers still wear grass shoes.
    http://img.haokanbu.com/img/blog/684f8084eec24adbae0d1f8f3e7cfa54.jpeg

    6)Running water was invented by Europeans.
    Soap was invented in Babylon 2800 B.C. Soap was mentioned in the Bible. By the second century A.D., the Greek recommended soap for both medicinal and cleansing purposes.

    chinese prime minster wang anshi (chinese song empire) had louses on his beard when he talked to his king.
    chinese started to use soap 100 years ago.

    7)Marco Polo may did not go to china at all.
    Marco Polo - Cracked.com
    www.cracked.com/article_18427_6-famous-explorers-who-shaped-worl...

    Marco Polo, Liar? - Los Angeles Times
    articles.latimes.com/1991-10-10/food/fo-13_1_marco-polo-liar
     
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    china was far behind Europe in history.

    1) Middle east invented writing 5000 years ago.


    2) since china invented writing about 3500 years ago,
    so the so-called 5000 years chinese civilization is a completely joke.

    The oldest chinese oracle bones is about 3500 years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone

    3) since china entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East,
    so china has a much shorter civilization.

    At the time, European used iron tools, chinese used primitive tools.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age

    4) when European and middle east people built stone houses, chinese king lived in a mud palace.
    The Great Pyramid of Giza was built 4500 years ago.
    Erlitou, The capital of china(2100 BC – 1600 BC) was built by mud.

    5)china entered machine age later than Europe.
    china entered information age later than Europe.

    6)china did not invent paper, gun powder,printing, the magnetic compass.
    Professor Joseph Needham proved china invented paper, gun powder,
    printing, the magnetic compass.
    Needham has been criticized for his strong inclination to exaggerate Chinese technological achievements.


    example, gunpowdergunpowder was invented by Greek - Greek fire, its chief ingredient was saltpeter, and sulfur, making it an early form of gunpowder.


    glass was invented 5000 years ago. It was before chinese history.
    The world did not to wait for china to invent gunpowder.


    7)china was far behind Greece

    chinese started to learn solid geometry in chinese qing empire, about 400 years ago.
    their text book was Euclid's Elements, which wrote by Euclid 2000 years ago.
     
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    china was very backward


    1) Till the early 1900's, if chinese against the ruling class, the punishment were:

    a) killing all relatives of the person, and all relatives of the
    relatives of the person, and all relatives of the relatives of the
    relatives of the person .

    Nine familial exterminations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    b) And, they would be chopped into at least 1000 pieces.
    Slow slicing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    2) chinese regarded their children as their properties.
    A cook cooked his own son to please his master. (Duke Huan of Qi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    Till the early 1900's they can legally sell their own children.


    3)china covers up everything.
    A dam failures killed an estimated 171,000 people in 1975 in china
    The death toll of this disaster was declassified in 2005, 30 years later.
    Banqiao Dam, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banqiao_Dam


    4) Till today, considering about baby girl abortion, and animal cruelty in china, china is still very backward.
     
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    To Nat Turner:

    You need to be able to think clear, and use facts to prove what you say.

    Now you can not prove what I said is wrong,
    you only can say: "I'd bet anything the guy is Japanese or Vietnamese."
     
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    Nat Turner, you should learn how to think and talk.
    and you can never fool a smart person, hahahhahaha

    The facts are:

    1) since china invented writing about 3500 years ago,
    so the so-called 5000 years chinese civilization is a completely joke.
    The oldest chinese oracle bones is about 3500 years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone

    2) since china entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East,
    so china has a much shorter civilization.
    At the time, European used iron tools, chinese used primitive tools.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age
     
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    And your point is...?
     
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    That would be polyandry (one woman, multiple husbands). Polygamy is the opposite.
     
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    He really, really, really doesn't like China.

    And doesn't know much about history.
     
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    SFJEFF you are a fool.

    what are I said are common knowledge. you can not prove it is wrong,

    so please stop to talk like an idiot.

    You only can fool fools.
     
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    SFJEFF, sir, you can not think.
    you should know that, it is good for everyone to know the history facts.

    you are telling fake stories about china, so you think you love china??????

    The basic facts are:
    1) china was enslaved for 2000 years.

    2) china was very poor

    Marco Polo may did not go to china at all.
    Marco Polo - Cracked.com
    www.cracked.com/article_18427_6-famous-explorers-who-shaped-worl...

    Marco Polo, Liar? - Los Angeles Times
    articles.latimes.com/1991-10-10/food/fo-13_1_marco-polo-liar


    3)china was far behind Europe in history.

    Needham has been criticized for his strong inclination to exaggerate Chinese technological achievements.

    Example, gunpowder
    gunpowder was invented by Greek - Greek fire, its chief ingredient was saltpeter, and sulfur, making it an early form of gunpowder.


    glass was invented 5000 years ago.
    It was before chinese history.
    The world did not wait for china to invent gunpowder.
     
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    It was good, Europe defeated china and japan.


    1) mongols, japanese, chinese, ....., their rulings were very harsh.


    mongols killed many people.
    Polpot killed 1/3 of people in his country.


    japan killed 30 million chinese and other east asian in wwii. USA saved china.
    Second Sino-Japanese War - Wikipedia
    Manila massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Till the early 1900's, if chinese against the ruling class, the punishment were:
    a) killing the person, and all relatives of the person, and all relatives of the
    relatives of the person, and all relatives of the relatives of the
    relatives of the person .

    Nine familial exterminations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    b) And, they would be chopped into at least 1000 pieces.

    Slow slicing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    chinese general Huang Chao killed all whites, arabic people, all foreigners in china.
    Huang Chao - Wikipedia

    chinese king Ran Min killed all foreigners (over a million) in his country.
    Ran Min - Wikipedia


    2) Europe saved many chinese, japanese, and others.

    without the western technology, people in china, japan, africa may only can live to 35 years old as 100 years ago.


    The death rate of new born baby in east asia and africa should be as high as hundreds years ago.

    chinese and japnese even had no the concepts of vein and artery before Europe contacted them.
     
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    But in the end, 'He Who Has the Gold Makes the Rules.' and that is China's endgame.
     
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    china and india both have 1 billion people.
    a country with one billion people is like a person with 1000 pounds.



    plus, Today, the average income in china is about world 100.
     
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    D) without Europe, china will never enter the computer age.


    1) Chinese never invented alphabet, chinese use thousands characters.
    so china is not able to invent a chinese keyboard.
    Then chinese are not able to invent a computer.

    2) china never invented any punctuation,
    The first chinesse book to be printed with punctuation was the History of Chinese Philosophy by Hu Shi.(1891-1962)

    3) chinese never invent any math symbols for 2000 years.
    include the signs of addition, minus, times, division, equal, ....

    4) For 2000 years, china did not invent pen.

    chinese used brush to write for 2000 years, till the early 20 century.
    For 2000 years, chinese were not able to write whenever they want,

    you can Google "Chinese Writing Sets".
     
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    B) china was very poor

    1) In the past 2000 years.
    There were more than 100 great Famines in china, people ate people.


    2) In 1959-1961. . there are 30,000,000 chinese died in starvation.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine


    3) in 1960's, chinese defence minister Peng Dehui said that, many chinese had no pants to wear.


    4) in chinese ming empire - general Lu Xiangsheng said that, many chinese soldiers had no pants to wear.


    5)in WWII, chinese soldiers wear grass shoes. and their clothes were full of holes.
    http://img.haokanbu.com/img/blog/684f8084eec24adbae0d1f8f3e7cfa54.jpeg
    the chinese president Chiang Kai-shek described chinese army looked like beggars.


    6) Marco Polo may did not go to china at all.
    Marco Polo - Cracked.com
    www.cracked.com/article_18427_6-famous-explorers-who-shaped-worl...

    Marco Polo, Liar? - Los Angeles Times
    articles.latimes.com/1991-10-10/food/fo-13_1_marco-polo-liar


    7)Running water was invented by Europeans.
    Soap was invented in Babylon 2800 B.C. Soap was mentioned in the Bible. By the second century A.D., the Greek recommended soap for both medicinal and cleansing purposes.

    chinese prime minster wang anshi (chinese song empire) had louses on his beard when he talked to his king.

    chinese started to use soap 100 years ago.
     

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