She held off until it was HER property and home that was threatened she didn't care when it was others. This hypocracy like the Minneapolis city council members who vote to cut funding to protect the citizens while charging the city first personal armed guards.
What got this imbecile to change her previous position was "the summer of love" went to her, and her "partners" house to protest. Wisely, Trump did not take the bait and let this idiot stew in her own bidet.
As usual you tell us what others though yet can't ever explain or validate your thoughts, it's quite funny reading your posts these days.
Uh, no. They didn't avoid bloodshed. They promoted and enabled it. Protests continue after Seattle police dismantle 'CHOP' zone, 25 arrested overnight "Officers arrested at least 44 people on Wednesday for failure to disperse, obstruction, resisting arrest, and assault. However, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan said she recommended the city not file charges against misdemeanor arrests from Wednesday morning." "Durkan issued a 48-hour executive order for protesters to vacate the area due to the ongoing violence and public safety issues in the area of the East Precinct and Cal Anderson Park. Mayor Durkan's order declared the gathering as an “unlawful assembly” that required immediate action. “These acts of violence hurt our whole community and they are also in direct contrast to the message ringing from the streets that Black lives matter,” Durkan said during a briefing after the operation." "The decision to dismantle the CHOP was sparked by an uptick in violence in addition to the deadly shootings. "The CHOP has become lawless and brutal," Chief Best said. In a Blotter post, SPD said there were 65 reported offenses inside the CHOP between June 8-30, 2020. Police said the offenses include aggravated assault, larceny-theft, rape, and two homicides. There were a total of 37 offenses during that time in the same area in 2019, according to SPD." https://www.king5.com/article/news/...chaz/281-6253a20a-127b-4cd7-93dd-43f3f008afd0
More telling us what Trump thinks, it's hilarious. So let's break your post down. Trump's not a real conservative but gives conservatives what they want so he can get elected. Kind of like every politician in the history of politics but Orange man bad because you can read his mind.
Effectiveness is not the measure of whether or not an organization exists and therefore can be said to be culpable. They proclaimed themselves, they acted in concert (ineptly but still in concert), they did regulate entry and exit of the zone etc. Were they involved? You're being facetious right? They filled a car with over 300 rounds then got one of the victims out of the car and started pistol whipping him as he lay bleeding the **** out, and seemed to enjoy doing it given the commentary. For a kid ****ing joyriding ffs. Come off it.
I did not say that he gave "conservatives" what they want. I specifically said evengenicals and Confederate sympathizers the latter enco, Molasses White Supremacists, KKK and Nazi sympathizers. There are a few real conservatives and Republicans such a George Conway and Steve Schmidt and others ( Lincoln Project) who have decided that enough of Donald bullschiestocity and they 'No To Trumpers'. You obviously should be cognizant of the fact that thevevalgenicals are concerned with anti abortionism and anti Gayism. He seems evengenicals made a pact with Satan. The Donald is hardly a fiscal conservative more is he a defender of the Constitution.
So we can split hairs even more and argue the minuti of CHAZ occupiers. The guy, Derek Cauvin, who killed George Floyd was a member of the Minneapolis Police department when committed that act of criminal stupidity. You will not deny that, will you? So to say that the Minneapolis Police Department because Derek Cauvin while a cop killed George Floyd would in my book be wrong , false, fake news. Yet you may agree with me that some gebonees of the BLM and certain sympathizers of BLM most likely have claimed that the Minneapolis Police Department killed Floyd. That is the principle I was trying to educate whoever first tried to challenge me. There is no proof that CHAZ "leaders" gave the order to kill people. Of course only a completely deranged BLM-er would try to convince a rational sober person that the Minneapolis Police Department gave a kill order to make Floyd a dead man.
Why would I deny that, its a matter of objective fact that he was a member of MPD at the time of the murder, and acted under color of law to accomplish it. Since he acted under color of law, I would think that it would indeed be proper, in a sane world, to include the MPD in the wrongful death suit if they taught his dumbass to do that hold the way it was performed and for the length of time it was performed. Qualified immunity would stand in between them there, and will indeed function to protect Chauvin from civil liability even since there is not a case directly en pointe in the 8th circuit that you can't simply strangle someone to death in the street under color of law, but qualified immunity is entirely judicially created doctrine with zero basis in statute that needs to pop like one of those nasty Dr Pimple Popper pimples so I don't really care. See how that works? Additionally: I love how we've gone from "Were the CHAZISTANI even involved in those crimes" to "but what about the MPD?". Its adorable that you think you can sneak that by. To the point: When you create an illegal occupation, and you go around handing out arms and charging people to defend the area and uphold the rules you proscribe, you don't get to say "but those people I armed and charged to uphold the rules did something I didn't necessarily tell them to do directly", because you're all party to the same ongoing felonies. You've armed them, you've sent them out, you've delineated the area they should enforce your control under. They are your agents. You're like a gang leader who sends his minions out to rob a joint: If they shoot someone you catch the charge with them because you're part of the conspiracy, a party to the crime. This holds even if you explicitly tell them not to harm anyone.
The political left cheer it on at their own peril. Nobody wanted that. Nobody wanted to occupy protest that's all this is. Nobody knows what it's about nobody cares. Seattle permits this because Seattle is a cesspool. They have decided that they aren't going to arrest people for using drugs so all of these drug users move to Seattle. this has happened in Portland and in parts of California as well. The reason why I think they are doing this it's to get their numbers up so they can sway the census possibly get more electoral votes. So they wouldn't dare interfere with their juggies having chop or whatever. But you know something nobody wants whether there left or right Democrat or Republican? they don't want their business has taken over and their homes taken over by a bunch of junky brats. People don't want to live near this mess. People don't want to be walking down the street and have to smell raw sewage. This is America not Bangladesh. Democrats don't want this at least not near their homes. Did you hear about Philadelphia?
I did not sneak an f-Ing thing anywhere. I pursued an intellectual debate and watched others fall all over themselves trying to pigeonhole groups people political parties. For you to accuse me of sneaking something in to blame the police is dishonest. My point is that people here and most likely everywhere love to generalize. You hear the same things that I do if you are listening. You have hear crap such as "the DNC sent those protesters out there to loot, rape, and riot". Or "the Republicans wish slavery was still legal". "AOC is the face of the Democrat(ic) Party". My point about the police as in the Minneapolis policemen are not responsible for Floyd's murder stands by itself. We could argue liability over immunity and maybe Chauvis was trained poorly or improperly. That could be adjudicated by the courts as the proximate reason for the wrongfull death of Floyd. Mind you that a wrongfull death can be an intentional act but not all wrongfull deaths are murder. Chauvis's attorney may very well argue that Floyd's death was the result of the training he received hense accidental on the part of Chauvis. That would make the police department financially liable. That is not what or where I went. The people who demonstrated are from a broad range of political, social, and racial groups. BLM likely the most predominant. A relatively small sample of people pulled off the CHAZ deal. I saw posters here trying to paint the CHAZ occupiers with the same paint as all of the demonstrators and vice versa. Why? Because those who pulled off the CHAZ occupation are not model citizens t say the least. To painting them and all of the demonstrators renders all of them equally bad. Going back to my point that ' police' did not kill Floyd that one cop did. That cop is White so did Whites kill Floyd! Obviously not. The occupiers did something illegal by occupying private property. Or property that does not belong to them because they should not have occupied that police province either. Does that make the occupiers as one group all guilty of the murder that occurred! Obviously not just as obviously the Floyd murder is not on all polic not on all White people.
No I meant there citizens standing up against people trying to create a chop. I think it was Philadelphia but I might have to look that up.
Does it matter if they gave the order? Did it matter that the African American police chief in Minneapolis would never condone nor give an order to kill George Floyd? The only thing your doing is talking in circles because nobody cares if someone gave an order or not the fact is George Floyd was murdered and 2 black kids were murdered in a BS protest/takeover that was supposed to be in Floyd's honor. How many more black men have to die in protest to Floyd's death? How many more businesses robbed and looted in Floyd's honor? Some of them African American owned. How many African Americans will not get timely police protection when needed due to defunding in Floyd's honor? Any intelligent person will realize that these anarchist and BLM Anarchists don't give a S*** about Floyd or any other black lives, it so appears.
So you are admitting that it was someone of the occupiers who killed those two kids for some reason. It appears we are not at this time or maybe never pin the killings on any specific people. You do not know if all BLM demonstrators are anarchists. There could be some unknown portion that are. Are there likely ANTIFA bad guys infiltrated within the demonstrators. Yes very likely. Are there Black Lives Matter leaders , if they have leaders, who don't really believe that Black Lives Matter! Could be. Hell we have a Commander in Chief who does not care about the lives of American servicemen so nothing would shock me. One group who foes not give a damn about certain lives does not excuse another group. I understand your concern about "defunding the police" which is stupid but isn't what the words say and/ or it may vary by location. I understand what the "intention" is to move certain non basic police functions to other government functions such as social services. I am not aware of any locality that is actually defunding their entire police force. Still those localities that do "defund" or more likely transfer certain current police functions to other government department will suffer disruptions, confusions, and as you mentioned delays. You ask about how many Afro-Americans would suffer delays or disruption in police services but I have to remind you that unless there are cities or town that are 100% Afro-American Whites will also suffer. Most of your concerns need to be addressed to BLM and those who support BLM. Neither you nor I can speak for BLM nor should we.
I'm starting my own CHOP, Victorians in Australia are being discriminated against!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOOT....BURN.... SMASH..... block off one of our main streets and declare a CHOP...more looting and burning for cherry on top Victorians 'abused' in SA border towns as coronavirus tensions flare amid travel confusion https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-01/tensions-rise-amid-coronavirus-fears-along-sa-victoria-border/12409442
Durkan is a special kind of elitist Democrat scum. She allowed people to be raped and murdered, and only shut the ****-hole down because of a peaceful protest at her residence.
The liability she created with her (no doubt DNC-sanctioned) stunt to goad Trump to move in with the NG? A billion+. The woman is scum.
Haha! Now Durkan is suing and trying to de-seat the City Council Member who led the protesters to her house. It will be interesting to see which one get recalled or loses their next election. Liberal vs. Progressive cat fight!
