Christchurch shooter's views were celebrated online

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is it OK to celebrate a mass shooting

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    We have no ISIS sympathizers in powerful positions in the US.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Turning this terrible incident and actions of a crazy person into partisan hackery on both sides as observed in this forum is disgusting and radical in of itself.
     
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    The perp was a cultivated partisan and is believed, according to evidence, to be a white supremacist. Objection to criticism of the ideology and deeds of the person and to the alleged source of his extremism, is to object to opposition to crime and racism of extremists. As such, it is to defend and protect them. Is that your purpose?
     
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    The lawsuit is like sueing Lamborghini for advertising their cars going dangerous speeds. Also, you made your post in a way that make it seems like you know how the gun industry is advertising their firearms. If you don't know then what makes you so sure that the gun industry is advertising their firearms as good mass shooting weapons?
     
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    Simple, one group is actively committing violence and the other isn't for the most part. And actually, both idealogies are legal provided that you dont incite, commit, or physically support acts of violence.

    Saying that all of X group needs to die is a lot different than putting together a plan to accomplish that goal.
     
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    People are allowed to praise ISIS, just like Nazism. It’s called free speech, don’t like it, move to ****ing China.
     
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    Well, first, you don't know what the lawsuit is "like". But then you question me about gun industry adds and imply that I don't know what they were. That is an "interesting" juxtaposition of statements.

    Regarding your question about gun industry ads, I characterized it as the lawsuit is. If you want to know more you would do well to read the lawsuit. I didn't pull anything out of my nether parts.
     
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    These are skinhead beliefs?

    The Demented Politics of the New Zealand Terrorist

    "In his fevered imagination alleged “over population” is directly tied to “mass immigration” and “sub-replacement fertility” among whites. The culprits who deserve the blame, he says, are the “corporate entities” who “invited” immigrants to “replace the White people.” It’s Paul Ehrlich meets Adolph Hitler, Bernie Sanders in cahoots with Benito Mussolini.

    He says global warming and immigration:

    …Are the same issue, the environment is being destroyed by over population, we Europeans are one of the groups that are not over populating the world. The invaders are the ones over populating the world. Kill the invaders, kill the overpopulation and by doing so save the environment.

    He calls for a form of “Green Nationalism” which will save the planet by stopping “the continued destruction of the natural environment itself through mass immigration and uncontrolled urbanization, whilst offering no true solution to either issue.”

    "In the end, he says nothing “has been conserved other than corporate profits and the the (sic) ever increasing wealth of the 1% that exploit the people for their own benefit.”"

    Read the whole thing.
     
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    Well, if you can't work up a decent argument you can always attack the poster. Maybe you can intimidate him into quivering and surrendering? That might work in your attempt to defend and protect Nazis.
     
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    @Lil Mike missed the story. The shooter said he wanted to "secure the future for white children" and he wanted to "ignite a race war in the United States". Could be Nazi white supremacy, huh?
     
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    Yeah, you’re one accusing people of having sympathy for the shooter because they don’t agree with your nonsensical partisan drivel.

    Want to try that again?
     
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    So you reject any opposition to Nazi ideology as "nonsensical partisan drivel." So did the shooter. And like you, his methods include attempts to intimidate those arrayed against him. You're not doing very well here pally.
     
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    If you actually had anything with which to oppose my comments, you would have attacked my comments rather than attacking me. Wanna try again?
     
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    A complete distortion of facts but that seems to be your pattern, isn't it?
     
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    48% Christian, 44% no religion, and 8% a mixture of Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, tribal, etc.
     
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    Is Kareem Abdul Jabbar a danger to you?
     
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    Nazis are white, Isis is not. We are a racist country. That is the answer.
     
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    Imagine it went the other way. You would be saying, hey, that is just the manifesto of one man. But since you see us as your true target, not the Australian Killer, we get to be smeared. i see that clearly.
     
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    Religion in New Zealand encompasses a wide range of groups and beliefs. Christianityis the most common religion with almost half (48 percent) of the population at the 2013 New Zealand census declaring an affiliation.[1] Around six percent of the population is affiliated with non-Christian religions, with Hinduism being the largest at over two percent, while 42 percent of New Zealanders stated they had no religion in the most recent census, and 4 percent made no declaration.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_New_Zealand
     
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    Your target should be the killer who himself died and not the implements he stole from his dead mother.
    I see that lawsuit as dead on arrival.

    Do you see the killer in New Zealand as sane? I do not.
     
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    Which part of the Nazi Ideology are you objecting to? The part where they people got 2 weeks paid vacation? The part where they constructed Autobahns? If you get a chance, you need to see those Autobahns. People cruise along at race track speeds with no cops stopping them.

    Did you focus on the wars of Hitler? What did Hitlers massive military build up do for jobs in Germany? I am asking for those workers who were sick of the depression and extreme inflation.

    Are you declaring the Australian shooter was a nazi? If you think Democrats come to the table with a wide ranging sets of views, can you also see how the Nazis could as well?
     
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    I have spent a quite a bit of time in New Zealand, mostly Christ Church and not quite as much in Australia. Ideologically, I did not see much difference between them and the US. Although they tended to look down on us because of our treatment of blacks, I did not see that much difference in the way the Australians treated the Aborigines and the New Zealanders treated the Maoris. What it comes down to is there are nuts in every country.
     
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    Translation: I got caught telling a lie - look a squirrel.
     
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    Some of my kids went to New Zealand too. I once was a sponsor of this nations 2nd best fastpitch softball team and it was common for New Zealand to have their pitchers play on our teams. I found them to be very nice to me and pleasant to deal with. And outstanding pitchers.
     

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