Christian bakery wins 'gay cake' ruling from UK supreme court

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  1. rahl

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    no, that isn't it's purpose. That might be YOUR purpose for getting married, but that doesn't apply to anyone other than you and your spouse. And no, marriage laws did not treat everyone equally. That's why the supreme court ruled against you.
     
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    Nope that is the purpose for our society and our species and yes everyone was treated equally everyone could be married to one person of the opposite sex, the definition of marriage.
     
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    nope. that is your purpose in your marriage. And no, not everyone was treated the same. This argument also failed against interracial marriage bans. They tried to argue that it was equal, since everyone was free to marry someone of the same race. the supreme court struck that ban down as well.

    So, as the court has pointed out, you can't ban same sex couples from marriage. It violates the 14th amendment. Sorry.
     
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    That is one definition of marriage there are others.
     
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    That is THE definition inspite of the attempts to redefine it.
     
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    Repeating yourself does not refute what I said. All men and all women are treated the same they can all marry someone of the opposite sex.
     
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    of course it does.

    This argument also failed against interracial marriage bans. They tried to argue that it was equal, since everyone was free to marry someone of the same race. the supreme court struck that ban down as well.

    So, as the court has pointed out, you can't ban same sex couples from marriage. It violates the 14th amendment. Sorry.
     
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    it is quite demonstrably not the definition of marriage.
     
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    I don't know what you're trying to do. You challenge my reply to another forum member and then support it in the same post. My point was simple and relevant to a discussion about Christian bakers forcing their definition of marriage onto others. Like their religion, their definition of marriage is declining and will eventually fade away. Marriage is only what 2 people agree on.

    If you will excuse me, I have to braid wires and solder them together. By definition, I am performing a marriage!
     
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    History proves you wrong.
     
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    No it proves me right. The attempts to turn our societal norms upside down and redefine marriage are recent.
     
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    Because you and some others simply decide the actual meaning doesn't fit your agenda so you give it a false definition oh hardly just as you cant redefine male and female.
     
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    Didn't the first time nor the second third or fourth.


    Strawman, interracial is still between a man and a woman.
     
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    Sorry, but the definition of marriage is quite demonstrably NOT between one man and one woman.
     
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    did the first time, and each subsequent time.




    you don't seem to know what a strawman is. Same sex marriage bans are unconstitutional, for the exact same reason interracial bans are. That isn't going to change, no matter how hard you stomp your feet and whine about it.
     
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    No that is one definition there are multiple definitions most words have multiple definitions
     
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    How did they get to be unconstitutional? The same way they can be made constitutional again as the two liberal Justice have said, there is no constitutional right to same sex marriage.
     
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    Only after the left attempted to mainstream homosexuality marriage by assign false definitions as they have done with gender. It was created as and has always been between a man and a woman.
     
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    Yes it is despite attempts by the left to try and change the English language in order to mainstream homosexuality. Funny how your side has to play these little work games just as with abortion.
     
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    they violated the 14th amendment.

    It would require an amendment to ban same sex marriage. And yes, there is a constitutional right to same sex marriage, as the Supreme Court pointed out.
     
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    It is quite demonstrably not.
     
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    This is demonstrably false. Marriage has been changed and redefined countless times throughout history. Same sex marriage dates back to ancient Mesopotamia and Ancient Rome.
     
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    No, actually the word meant lots of things long before there was any political nonsense attached to it.

    And then there's polygamous marriages that have been happening since way before monogamous ones. And it's always meant that even before the United States existed.

    Sorry you're completely wrong here.
     
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    Like with divorce, interracial marriage, interfaith marriage, and purchasing a bride.

    All that is recent?
     
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    Always is an awfully long time. There were same sex marriage in ancient Egypt. So your claim is demonstrably false.
     

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