Christianity is the lesser evil of all religions and beliefs

Thank you.

 

To people who do not take the bible literally I presume Margot?

 

I would check the info of a man who thinks castle in Europe are to protect Christians from Muslims!

 

Most educated Christians don't take the Bible literally. Jesus could see (like many others I would presume) that the burning issue of the times was Roman occupation, but that the Jews couldn't win an out an out war because the Temple would be destroyed and so would Jewish law. He was teaching non-violent liberation theology which was pretty radical. Funny that MLK and Gandhi studied the Sermon on the Mount extensively.

 

So am I wrong to include the violent texts of both old and new testaments when comparing with other religions Margot?

 

No.. The NT can't exist without the OT.. The gospel writers tweaked the story and the prophecies to make Jesus the messiah. The messiah expected by the Jews was to be an anointed, warrior king descended from Jesse and David who would defeat their enemies.

Messiah in Hebrew means anointed.

It appears that the Gospel writers to include the three that never met Jesus invented a new sect.

 

From Wikipedia:

"Discussions have typically attributed the rise of the castle to a reaction to attacks by Magyars, Muslims, and Vikings and a need for private defence.[55]"

"Although the increase was slower in Spain, the 1020s saw a particular growth in the number of castles in the region, particularly in contested border areas between Christian and Muslim.[69]"

"The Muslim invasion of the Iberian Peninsula in the 8th century introduced a style of building developed in North Africa reliant on tapial, pebbles in cement, where timber was in short supply.[71]"

"After the First Crusade, Crusaders who did not return to their homes in Europe helped found the Crusader states of the Principality of Antioch, the County of Edessa, the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and the County of Tripoli. The castles they founded to secure their acquisitions were designed mostly by Syrian master-masons."

"Castle architecture in the East became more complex around the late 12th and early 13th centuries after the stalemate of the Third Crusade (1189–1192). Both Christians and Muslims created fortifications, and the character of each was different. Saphadin, the 13th-century ruler of the Saracens, created structures with large rectangular towers that influenced Muslim architecture and were copied again and again, however they had little influence on Crusader castles.[92]"

"In the early 13th century, Crusader castles were mostly built by Military Orders including the Knights Hospitaller, Knights Templar, and Teutonic Knights."

"The greatest period of castle building in Spain was in the 11th to 13th centuries, and they were most commonly found in the disputed borders between Christian and Muslim lands."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle#Origins_(9th_and_10th_centuries)

I know facts don't matter to you, but for anyone interested in the facts, yes, castles were mainly built to defend against Muslims. They were also built for a variety of other purposes, but the main reason was the Muslim threat.

 

The Visigoths weren't Catholic and they were defeated on the Iberian peninsula by Muslim and Jewish fighters from North Africa.

 

Facts matter a lot to me and exactly how you try to manipulate those facts is clear here. Your source states, Discussions have typically attributed the rise of the castle to a reaction to attacks by Magyars, Muslims, and Vikings and a need for private defence. You simply ignore 75% of the reasons and deal then make out that 25% is the reason for Castles in Europe. I would love to debate this with you in another thread but I doubt you will start one.

This is typical of the sort of misleading information you usually find among theists.

 

So here is an excellent video that deals with the arguments of " but that is the old testament"! It neatly deals with smiths assertion that the New Testament is all a christian needs. Explaining as Margot has done that the NT simply does not make sense without the old testament.

 

Allah invented he push up bra too
How could anyone suspend rational thinking and believing this stuff

 

Yeah like gay rights (sarcasm alert)
This is such an insult to people who do not believe in the supernatural. Do you think that I do not have compassion? I believe I respect individual liberties more than Christians who pick and choose from the Bible.

 

No.. Not in my opinion. I have a problem with blood sacrifice since it appears that God put a stop to that with Abraham and Isaac.... and it always seemed pagan to me. Lots of stuff in the Bible doesn't make much sense or contradicts itself... Still, I think we have to look at that.

 

You don't understand the basics.. All who submitted to the God of Abraham back to Adam were Muslims (submitters) long before the messenger Muhammed.

 

When we go to the great Hindu Temple in Brandon we can't understand anything except the place is beautiful and peaceful.

So we talk to the priest and he tries to explain it as best he can, and we understand maybe 1 per cent of it -- but 99% ignorance beats 100% ignorance.

 

There has never been a conflict between the Shia and Sunni on the size of the Thirty Years War, which saw Christian orders battle each other in seventeenth-century Europe with an awesome death toll.

 

Convert to Islam today. Help destroy the West!

 

No, you don't understand.
To become a Muslim and to convert to Islam, it is essential to utter the Shahada, one of the Five Pillars of Islam, a declaration of faith and trust that professes that there is only one God (Allah) and that Muhammad is God's messenger.

People submitted to their Gods long before Islam was invented.
This does not make them Muslims.

 

Yes, I know about the Shahada and five pillars, but the underlying concept is that ALL who submitted to the will of God were Muslims like Abraham. Its inclusive.

There has never been a conflict between the Shia and Sunni on the size of the Thirty Years War, which saw Christian orders battle each other in seventeenth-century Europe with an awesome death toll.

 

That's kind of silly.

 

No, ….You don't understand the basics..
Prior to Jewish contact, they never even heard of Abraham and Adam.
But they didn't go Muslim until long after that.
Nobody knows when, guesses are 1400 and 1200 years ago.

 

That;s absurd.
All people of all religions submitted to the will of their Gods.
That does not make everyone Muslims.

Some Christians submit to the will of their god, that does not make them Muslims.

Jews submit to the will of their god, that does not make them muslims.

Mayans submit to the will of their gods.
That does not make them Muslims.

 

No ... only the people of the book.. Jews, Christians, Muslims and Zoroastrians submit to the one true God of Abraham. Your studies fall very short in understanding the basic concepts. Its not easy.. I was lucky to have access to a Muslim scholar and judge when I was trying to study and understand what they believe.

 

Of course they had heard of Adam and Abraham.. They were also exposed to Nestorian Christians. The Arabs traded with Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Levant, East Africa and the Indus Valley a thousand years before Islam...

 

You just proved yourself, and your Muslim scholar wrong.
They never heard of Abraham until contact with Jews and Christians.