Christianity simple explained

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    We are talking about Abraham - You are talking about the "Israelites" after the exodus from Egypt - who have nothing to do with Abraham .. and we are all aware of the YHWHs goin on about not worshiping other gods .. Duh

    You do this all the time - just warp to a completely different topic - unrelated to what you are responding to - and numerous posters complain about it.

    Your claim was that Abraham and Jesus worshiped a Pagan God . A religious cult that rose up 500 years after the fact who's God told them not to worship other gods . has nothing to do with your claim.

    How is it that Abraham and Jesus worshiped a Pagan God ?
     
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    Elohim means God. It can refer to pagan gods or the one true God.
     
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    Elohim is a generic word for God. What does that have to do with your claim that Jesus and Abraham worshiped a Pagan God, '

    'Back up your claim that the God of Jesus/Abraham was a pagan God.
     
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    Jesus is God and the Messiah. Abraham used to be a pagan but he became a believer in the Messiah.
     
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    what part of "Back up your Claim" did you not understand ? You are making making up things - giving no Biblical Support.

    Your Claim that Abraham worshiped Jesus as the Messiah is a complete falsehood according to the Bible - and we have been over this a number of times.
     
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    Where did I say that Jesus and Abraham worshipped a pagan god? Jesus is God.
     
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    You have said this on numerous occasions .. trying to claim that "Enlil" who was the "most high" God to Abraham and high priest Melchizedek (who you claim was Jesus) .

    Both revered the same God as "the Most High" - and that God was not YHWH - so you called this God a Pagan God - then spewed all kinds of falsehoods from those nasty websites. This is what happens to those who spread falsehood - they can't remember their own tall tales.
     
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    Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
     
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    How does that show that the God of Abraham and Jesus was a Pagan God as you claim ?

    What is your problem - Support your claim or shut up.
     
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    The God of Abraham was Yahweh.
     
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    No it wasn't - but what does this have to do with your claim that Jesus and Abraham worshiped a Pagan God.. Is YHWH now a Pagan God as well ?

    Just lost and confused - you have made up so much nonsense that you can't remember one tale from the next - and keep making up new tales as you go.
     
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    Where did I say that Jesus and Abraham worshipped a pagan god?
     
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    You called Enlil - the name God of Abraham and Jesus - a Pagan God - did you want to change your story - yet again ?
     
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    Abraham never worshipped Enlil.
     
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    Yes he did - its right in the Bible - and we went over this .. but OK .. if Abraham did not worship a God named Enlil as the Bible and modern theological, historical and archaeological scholarship states - what was the name of the God that Abraham called his God ?
     
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    Before Abraham was a believer he was a pagan.
     
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    We are talking about after Abraham became a believer - and you know it - so yet another intentionally deceitful post - pretending to not understand what is being discussed.

    A believer in which God- what was the name that Abraham called his God when he became a believer ?
     
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    God is sometimes called Elohim in the Bible. Elohim is used to refer to pagan gods, because Elohim means God in Hebrew and people use the term God to refer to Yahweh and to refer to false ideas of who God is.
     
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    Nope - that is not a name - and you know it. What is the name that Abraham knew is God by ? This God introduces himself to Abraham - and gives his name .. is that name YHWH ?

    Such a mindless circle of intentional deceit you want to weave - pretending not to know the name by which God introduced himself to Abraham ... what a pathetic foundation .. trying to avoid and deflect from the Truth - The Way - The Light - by pretending you do not know.

    We went over this scripture in detail - do you not remember - mind too full of snake charms ?
     
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    I never said that Abraham became a believer in Enlil.
     
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    Pascal's Wager again. Just as nonsensical as it was the first time it was spoken.
     
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    God told Moses I am that I am.
     
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    Then tell us the name by which Abraham knew the God he did believe in...
     
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    That is the God of Moses - and you know we are talking about Abraham - what a duplicitous pile of intentional deception.

    What was the name by which Abraham knew God ?
     
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    Abraham called God Jehovah.
     

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