Citizen Trump may have broken a law that President Trump made a felony

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  1. Noone

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    Not Even the President Can Declassify Nuclear Secrets
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...fbi-raid-classified-nuclear-documents/671119/
     
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    He has not been convicted of anything.

    I owe you nothing.
     
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    They are referring to launch codes. Launch codes are changed on a regular basis.

    The launch codes are carried by the military officer who accompanies the president. It is unlikely that Trump would even have them, let alone take them with him.
     
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    so you think Clinton was innocent and never used personal email? never been proved guilty in a court of law......
     
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    fake twitter post?

    it was not declassified....
     
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    I agree with you that, despite the numbness of Trump adherents, to reality, this could actually be the undoing, of the Donald-- this seems an incredibly reckless act, even by Trump standards.
     
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    they were declassified
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-allies-declassified/2022/08/12/id/1082839/
    Ric Grenell, who was Trump's acting director of national intelligence, told NBC News that documents can be declassified if the president simply says they are.

    "There is no approval process for the president of the United States to declassify intelligence," Grenell told NBC News. "There is this phony idea that he must provide notification for declassification, but that's just silly. Who is he supposed to notify? I think it's the height of swampism to think the president should seek bureaucrats' approval."

    and Trump doesn't have a fake twitter account... he has a real Truthsocial account... where the truth is spoken

    https://truthsocial.com/



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    Lee he insulted me, I called him lieutenant because he bragged about being an officer. I know many fine lieutenants. Some didn't come home. So that wasn't an insult.

    He called me "private no class". I wouldn't object to being called private, that wasn't my rank but I knew many, many young private's that fought bravely, many died. I don't mind being called private but I don't deserve the "no class".

    I deserve an apology, he says I don't. I will continue to remind him that I fought while he sat on his ass.
     
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    oh, so Trump is making his site look like Twitter... copying off others, how unoriginal, almost like plagiarizing anouthers speech
     
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    It's not limited to "launch codes". He can declassify, but not on a whim or as a standing order. I've worked with secure documents, they have to be viewed in a SCIF, and even if they are declassified it takes time and there are procedures.
     
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    Twitter made theirs to look like truthsocial. Join... it's free..... and you can get educated instead of the CNN garbage that pollutes your brain.
     
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    Let Trump speak for himself

    https://truthsocial.com/

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    Source?
     
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    If?

    As the documents where not itemized or inspected by the Trump team before they left the premises... It is really a possibility there will be documents show up that are not part of what the FBI left with... As we have seen the FBI fabricate evidence before with no accountability, there is a real good possibility that Nuclear documents will somehow show up in this batch...
     
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    "Twitter made theirs to look like truthsocial. Join... it's free"

    yep, that sounds like a lie the Orange Stain would try to sell - lol
     
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    Yep, typical liberal response...."you can get educated" went right over your head....

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    yep, unlike Trump Social, that was the truth, hard for some on the right to hear as the truth hurts
     
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    The law says officer or employee but I don't see where it says president. The left is really stretching laws to put him in jail and avoid the democratic process.
     
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    Da Trumpsta

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    It is unclear whether or not the documents were exclusively declassified, if the reports are true that there were nuclear documents in the mix, then not even the president can declassify those documents. Even in the case of the documents all being declassified, those documents are still going to be wanted by the federal government for the archive. The assumption everyone is making is that because there was a search warrant means that there is a criminal investigation, but that might not necessarily be the case

    It's possible that this is the beginning of a criminal prosecution, it's possible that this is all just a ploy by the Biden administration to go after a political rival.. but it could also simply be nothing more than an effort by the feds to retrieve archival documents. People are talking about this incident as if Trump has already the subject for charges. All that has happened so far is a warrant was issued to retrieve a collection of documents that belong to the federal government. We don't know if anything more will come from this until the information comes out, until then this is all just speculation
     
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    It's a moot point, the investigation into the potential code violations, the codes under scrutiny do not depend on classification. The one that is part of the Espionage Act, ( 18 U.S. Code § 793 ) that was enacted 30 years prior to the establishment of the classification regime.

    Moreover, any declassified doc has to have it clearly marked indicating the declassification, and these docs were not.

    Additionally, Trump, at one point, contended that the FBI planted the docs. Ok, then why is he asserting he declassified them?

    MOreover, declassifying TS docs pertaining to nuke weaponry requires specific training. Given that Trump can barely read his morning briefings, his attention span is as short as a 5 year old, figuratively speaking, it's doubtful he went through any training, especially given the fact that if he had, he'd be touting it, which he most certainly is not.

    https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/hss/Classification/docs/CTI-Training-RD-FRD-Briefing.pdf

    https://sgp.fas.org/othergov/doe/rdfrdhtm.html


    Now Trump is contending he had a 'blanket declassification' going.

    He's all over the place, and clearly, he is grasping at straws.
     
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    Sure, right, whatever you want to believe.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    It begs the question: Should someone who is a grave threat to the national security of the United States be allowed to run for president?

    IN my book, the answer is no.

    But, of course, you'd have to agree with the premise of the question, which I doubt you will.
     
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    How has he been proven unfit?
     
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    And President Trump was never found guilty during the sham impeachment. Your point?
     
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