City and rural sacrifices

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Donor

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    Cities have a larger variety material goods and services readily available; however, time and space are at a premium in cities. City people often sacrifice space and time for goods and services. Country people sacrifice the convenience of readily available goods and services for space and time.

    I would not want to live in a densely populated area. I would not want to live where the land could not support the population. I would not want to live where I could not fire my gun or take a piss off of my back porch. I would not want to live where the deer and turkey don't graze in my yard while I drink my coffee in the morning. I cannot understand why people would pay a premium to live stacked on top of each other, but I'm damn glad that they do. As it is, well over half of our nation occupies less than fifteen percent of our country. And as far as I'm concerned, they can have it. I have just about as much interest in living stacked on top of other people as they have interest in living out here. So far, so good.
     
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    You are going to really hate the UN's agenda 21!
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Donor

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    In the bible, God did not confuse the language of men because they built the tower of Babel.
    He did it because they refused to spread out after the flood. We have one job, one job; we are to multiply, fill the Earth and subdue it. Many today consider that to be the original sin. Those same people will one day ask, 'when was I an enemy of God?'
     
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    I think that I live in the best compromise between urban and rural. I live in a very small city that is more than 100 miles from the closest major city.

    We have easy access to the essential goods and services, such as water, sewer, electricity, trash collection, healthcare, and groceries. We don't have the urban crime, traffic, and social strife issues.

    Only the more frivolous of the consumer goods are not easily obtained. For example, the nearest Popeye's chicken sandwich is 75 miles away.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    What I don't like about where I live is that I can't go to a world class play, or a world class symphony concert, or world class art exhibition.

    When I lived in the Cleveland and Columbus areas, all kinds of cultural opportunities abounded.
     
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    I'm a one `hour drive from Cleveland and a three hour drive from Columbus; but much more importantly, I'm a three hour drive from the Allegheny National Forest. I go there for world class play, the symphonies of nature and the beauty that art tries to imitate. I don't see another person for days.
     
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    You simply must go to Severance Hall.

    Go hear a world class symphony orchestra, in person.

    It's like going to The Louvre. Just do it the one time.

    Go with the attitude of immersing yourself in the experience. Close your eyes and let them take you away.
     
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    Nah, we just plan our lives differently. Groceries once a month, stock up at Sam's, Costco or BJs on non perishables. 7/11s and such are never that far away. Some farmer's co-ops have expanded and have become part department store, part agricultural supplies. It may surprise some folks but energy rates are often lower in rural areas as is water. Some states offer reduced tax rates on large parcels of land that is wooded provided it isn't improved. Rural areas have much lower crime rates than cities and larger sense of community. I was born in the city and lived there in my childhood but have lived more than forty years in the country. New England isn't Montana or Wyoming but an hours drive from most large cities will put you in a rural town surrounded by farms and other rural towns. I avoid the city as much as possible and only go there when I absolutely have to.
     
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    Your posts are almost always partisan as all heck and not all that "intellectually honest"...but you generally avoid the real nutjob conspiracy garbage

    Oh well,,,
     
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    That's about it. I have lived in some pretty big cities, New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago. I loved them. The were places of great excitement, energy, and learning. I'm a lot older now. I live in a rural farm area now and enjoy the peace, gentle pace, and as the man said, watching a doe give birth to twins across my road. I've lived a blessed life.
     
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    People in a senior living center, in the most densely populated state in the country New Jersey, are afraid to leave their homes.They are being terrorized by a flock of 50-60 wild turkey's,they apparently chase the senior citizens and peck at them.
     
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    Give a couple of the old guys corn knives. They lop off a couple gobbler heads and the rest of the turkeys will either straighten up or more likely move on to somewhere safer.
     
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    The i 25 corridor of Colorado is a horrible place to live. Way too many people.

    Eastern Oregon and Washington, north and central Idaho and Southwest Montana is the place to be. Subtracting out of that Bend OR, Missoula Bozeman and Kalispell/whitefish MT
     
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    I used to live in da city but I got tired of dealing with people and isolated myself on 43 in the foothills of the Ozarks and never intend on going back...
     
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    Last March i drove to Knoxville TN from Colorado on the way home we took off north at Kentucky Lake and took a two laner west through the Ozarks to Branson. Amazing territory. Talk about windy roads. Saw a few places that looked like the end of the road for some people but the rolling hills seemed to go on forever. I want to go back when the leaves are green.
     
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    What is also a beautiful drive is when it it snowy. Yes the roads are windy and there are sheer drop offs thirty to forty feet or more off the sides of the roads but it doesn’t stop people from running off the road. Another nice drive is the Boston mtns in northern Arkansas by Eureka Springs the closest city by the fabled Clampets of The. Beverly Hillbillies. The hillbillies kinda fad d away in the nineteen nineties they are now called well groomed mountain men. But I love driving and camping in the Rockies this time of year.
     
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    I like the Rockies in MT and ID. There are just too many people for me here in Colorado. But the mule deer are rutting and seem to be everywhere now. You gotta try to enjoy what you have at hand. :)
     
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    It's the free market for you. Cities have the advantage of economies of scale, that's why city living is much more efficient than rural living. If price of fossil fuels would double, city folk would barely notice, rural folk would be in big trouble. Now the suburbs are kind of inbetween the extremes.

    Me, I live in a somewhat country-side area near a mid sized population center. 15 min commute, which I can also still do by bike. I like the space and land, but I know it is a luxury that needs to be appreciated, not taken for granted. I used to live in Germany, where few people have the luxury of acreage, even in the rural areas. It is one of the things I find much better in the US compared to Germany.
     
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    Oooooooooo, I'm gonna tell Sobo. You said that :)
     
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    The OP makes me smile. My wife and I had always been 'city folks' and in 1996, when we moved to Arizona, decided to try country living. We bought a builders spec home in the community of Hereford, Arizona, right on the border. It was a beautiful home on three acres with a nice wash running thru the back of the property. Being from the city we had a lot to learn. One of the things we learned is that a wash is a fantastic highway for wildlife. We had plenty of that. A lot of people who live in the country have large dogs. Dogs liked to bark at animals such as deer, javelina, rabbits, coyotes, deer and other creatures. After a few years we decided we liked life better in a civilized society and moved to Tucson. So much for country living. At least for us. :)
     
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    Man are people different.. Acreage with wildlife sounds perfect to me. Glad you found a plsce you like...:)
     
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    We loved the wildlife. What we didn't love was all the barking dogs.
     
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    The cost of just about everything, including fuel, is much higher in cities.
     
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    Only in certain markets. Not so much in others. Rural places have their own economies of scale. There's not much of an economic advantage to beef farming in lower Manhattan. Texas on the other hand...And while city dwellers might not notice a doubling of fuel costs, (I disagree with this statement) a change in the price of other inelastic commodities that are produced outside of the city can cause collapse. See: Detroit.

    So if you're talking about efficiency it depends on what you're trying to produce.
     
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