Climate Change 2022: Mitigation of Climate Change

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  1. 557

    557 Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Here is what you posted with bold added by me.


    Pollution from the rest of the world doesn’t mean anything? SMH
     
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    That is why they changed the name of this fraud to climate change. Now they can say that any unusual weather is caused by climate change even colder than average days. As if climate and weather are no different.

    Then there is the companion fraud that weather knows what pigmentation people are and effects them differently. Another proof that this is all a fraud. They tie it all together with their other immoral ideologies.

    2010-2012-2015-2016-2019 all well below average for California wildfires. How could that be?

    The worst decades for drought in the USA was the 30s and the 50s.
     
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    It is an America sucks and white people sucks ideology.
     
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    Here is a source for you mate.

    https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

    Countries or regions with higher per capita co2 than USA.

    Canada
    Saudi Arabia
    Australia
    UAE
    Kuwait
    Qatar
    Oman
    Trinidad and Tobago
    Bahrain
    Estonia
    Montenegro
    Luxembourg
    Brunei
    Gibraltar
    Falkland Islands

    Wow Canada's per capita emissions is 20% higher than ours. How is that for hypocrisy?

    Aside from Australia and Canada who talk a good game and do little how many of those other countries do people think will honestly change anything they do to go green? Kuwait and Saudi going green any time soon?
     
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  5. WillReadmore

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    I'd like you to not charge me or other with being liars.

    And, that's especially true when I have absolutely not lied.

    Agreement of world wide science means a LOT.

    For example, it means more than your opinion or my opinion means.

    If you have cites to prove the whole world of climate science to be wrong on the fundamental issue of Earth's warming due to human cause, then do so.

    Until then, I'm really not interested in your disdain for climate science.
     
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    That is exactly why you need to consult science.

    Without doing so, you don't even know what they are saying - so you listen to IDIOTS make stuff up that they THINK science says.
     
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    I didn't I asked if you were lying. Maybe you have a guilty conscience.
    I would agree if that were the case it is not. The Meta study that established that was so incredibly broad and people just took it to me something very specific that's a religion.
    what some extremely vague meta study that was interpreted for you to mean something very specific that it doesn't really mean?

    I'm sorry I don't believe in your religion
    I don't need to prove your stupid little religion wrong that's not how it works.

    You telling It on the mountain does not equate to reality.
    It seems you are you can't stop defending your stupid religion from my mockery of it.

    You're either desperately trying to convince yourself or your sealioning.
     
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    It's like fire and brimstone.

    I think of televangelists. The poor people they rip off do everything to justify what they're doing
     
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    You just weren't tracking.

    The point is that when we are at or near the top of the list of offenders, our message to others looks like CRAP - more American hypocrisy.

    When people whine about world production of greenhouse gasses by OTHER countries, they have to recognize that we are the LEADERS in pollution, and thus have NOTHING to say to the world.

    The EU on the other hand has a competitive first world economy and is doing far better than we are on a per capita basis.

    They can lead without being hypocrites.
     
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    America didn't even come up until there were claims of other countries doing worse.

    Also, you need to get over your racism.
     
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    YOU said, "Where you just lying about that?"\
    There have been many studies of the scientific consensus on climate change. They all point to the strength of the consensus that the Earth is warming and that warming is due to human activity.
    Yes - you view science as a "stupid religion".

    And, that demonstrates that you think you know better than the entire world of climate scientists.
     
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    That's a questing see the little question mark on the end and the inquisitive word at the beginning.

    That indicates a question not an accusation. I can't believe you copy and pasted this question and didn't see that.
    sure but it has to be incredibly vague in order to fabricate consensus. It's mostly a manipulation.
    this is a religious belief.
    Weak
    no it means I know better than to be manipulated by people who say the word science over and over thinking that equals science.

    It's like a magic word for you it actually means something to me.
     
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    Total nonsense.

    The question is whether you agree with the vast majority of climatologists that Earth is warming and the reason is human activity.

    Yes, I'll repeat the word "science", because this IS an issue of science, not of politics, and this IS a thread on science.

    So, where is your evidence that the world of scientists who study climate are treating their topic as a religion?

    If you can't defend that, then your whole "religion" angle is total BS.
     
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    Thus sayith the lord
    no it's not it's whether I'm manipulated by some BS interpretation of metadata

    but it doesn't mean anything in your mouth because you're just saying it to add clout to your religious belief.
    why would I prove something I never claimed?

    You're talking about these scientists as if you know them all and as if it's not based on some manipulation of metadata.

    I don't need to prove you're BS sermons wrong. And just because you try and steal someone else's credibility doesn't mean you have it.

    You can invoke your prophets all you want. Until you give me a list of every single one of them that you have no idea who they even are you just told to think something by some news media then you'll have a point but you just saying science and climatologist because you're trying to add talk to your stupid religion.
    Defend against what your brain dead preaching?
     
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    No, I just believe in using facts. You made a false claim. How do you think that looks?

    I don’t get spun up about your messaging or what other countries do. I’m content to live my carbon neutral lifestyle and leverage the wonderful gift of carbon I’ve been given to make a good living. I don’t really care what country it comes from as long as it keeps coming in quantities sufficient to facilitate me feeding a growing population. The last thing we need if we are going to keep increasing global population is less carbon and lower temps.

    To be clear, I’m all for cleaner energy when it is economically and environmentally viable. But as long as more people are dying from below ideal temps than above ideal temps by a factor of 17 it’s going to be hard to get me emotional about global temperature increases.

    I’m comfortable educating the world on climate and climate mitigation. There’s no hypocrisy here and I can’t control other people’s hypocrisy so see little value in discussing it.

    However, if you wish to we could discuss the hypocrisy of the EU who is increasing ethanol imports hand over fist from the US and Brazil, essentially outsourcing those carbon emissions and adding them to North and South American balance sheets while maintaining their access to energy. It’s the same underhanded method California uses to outsource carbon emissions to Midwestern states.
     
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    Yeh, we brought prosperity and freedom to the world and used fossil fuels to do it. :) Evil bastards.
     
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    That’s an apt analogy. Scare people into behaviors you want them to adopt. Classic. :)
     
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    Lols! Tucker strikes again!
     
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    I want to say it's almost like Stockholm syndrome.
     
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    Your post indicates you're fully spun up.
     
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    Because I believe in facts? LOL

    What do you have against using facts instead of misinformation?
     
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    Cool your jets. Just trying to keep from mowing the property. And it is really pretty in the spring.
     
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    What do you have against consulting science on climate change when science throughout the entire world points to Earth warming due to human activity?
     
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