Climate Change denial vs History

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read the post which I responded to.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've been through all this before. What discount rate did Stern and Garnaut use and why ?? And then read the book by Dr. Tol - "Climate Economics - Economic Analysis of Climate Change and Climate Policy" - 2014
     
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    So now anyone who disagrees with you is responsible for whatever anyone else who disagrees with you says...?

    And you presume to instruct others on the scientific method?

    ROTFL!
    Throughout her career. But we know from the Climategate emails that peer review in climate science has been utterly corrupted, so something has to substitute for it.
     
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    Again only personal attacks and insults against Dr. Curry ?? Sad but true that is all the alarmists have.
     
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    No I try to instruct people on the basics of critical analysis which is the core of academia and the platform upon which scientific methodology stands

    I have yet to see that from denialists
    Then where are all the peer reviewed published papers supporting her stance

    So far I have found only one
     
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    Koch Industries, Inc. /ˈkoʊk/ is an American multinational corporation based in Wichita, Kansas, United States, with subsidiaries involved in manufacturing, trading, and investments. It was founded as Wood River Oil and Refining Company in 1940, and later as Rock Island Oil & Refining Company.

    Koch also owns Invista, Georgia-Pacific, Molex, Flint Hills Resources, Koch Pipeline, Koch Fertilizer, Koch Minerals, Matador Cattle Company and recently Guardian Industries. Koch companies are involved in industries such as the manufacturing, refining, and distribution[1] of petroleum, chemicals, energy, fiber, intermediates and polymers, minerals, fertilizers, pulp and paper, chemical technology equipment, ranching,[3] finance,[4] commodities trading,[5] and other ventures and investments. The firm employs about 60,000 people in the United States and another 40,000 in 59 other countries.[6]
     
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    Can you demonstrate that she does NOT have a conflict of interests?
    There is only one paper from her that is a peer reviewed sceptical paper
    Everything else is published through her blog rather than accredited traditional scientific channels so no I am not attacking her personally as much as holding her to a standard
     
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    There you go again. Guilty until proven innocent ?? Please.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dr. Curry is a highly respectable acclaimed climate scientist. When they attack her, they really reach a new low point. Great reply to one of the alarmists.

    It is like attacking Koch who funds many universities. Now do they all teach the same climate doctrine? This is a religion to the believers.
     
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    Skepticism is at the heart of the scientific method, alarmist treat climate change as dogma.
     
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    You are suggesting to us all that a premier climate scientist can't make a living off hurricane forcasts?

    Who then can make a living doing hurricane forecasts?

    Are farmers not experts at what they do?
     
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    Respected by who? You

    Judith A. Curry is chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. She runs a climate blog and has been invited by Republicans on several occasions to testify at climate hearings about uncertainties in climate understanding and predictions. Climate scientists criticize her uncertainty-focused climate outreach communication for containing elementary mistakes and inflammatory assertions unsupported by evidence. Curry is a regular at Anthony Watts' denier blog, as well as Steve McIntyre's Climate Audit, another denier site. She has further embarrassed herself (and her university) by using refuted denier talking points and defending the Wegman Report, eventually admitting she hadn't even read it in the first plac
     
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    Curry receives ongoing funding from the fossil fuel industry. In an interview with Curry for a October 2010 Scientific American profile[4], Michael Lemonick reports (pers. comm.) that he asked Curry about potential conflicts of interest, and she responded,

    "I do receive some funding from the fossil fuel industry. My company...does hurricane forecasting...for an oil company, since 2007. During this period I have been both a strong advocate for the IPCC, and more recently a critic of the IPCC, there is no correlation of this funding with my public statements."

    Suuuuure Judy
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She is no longer chair since she was able to retire.
    But she is very respected no matter what some blogger says about her. GT does not hire second rate professors.
     
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    And she takes fossil fuel industry money while supporting THEIR positions
     
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    Teh klimate chanje....Mr Whiskers is skeptical:

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    Look, spend a lot more time doing this to the alarmists who rush about, hair on fire, telling us hell is almost overtaking us. Supposedly man that is blamed for this can't however control climate. So what is a normal dude not caring supposed to do? We see how the alarmists get it done. None too well.
     
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    I am not clear this "fossil fuel industry" has one view of this. I know that Dr. Curry is a professional and she is quite skilled at predicting hurricanes. Naturally part of the oil industry being at sea wants to get her views on hurricanes.

    What do you expect her to do, stop making a living?
     
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    Let me get this. You forecast hurricanes. And for an oil company. So this negates your climate science career? Put those standards on all scientists. But even were you to, it means nothing whatsoever.
     
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    I'm absolutely clear that I don't care what you're clear on or not
     
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    You take oil company money and say what they want.

    Pretty simple.

    Stop saying it and you lose money
     
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    Proven guilty On all counts

    But if your champion has so much knowledge in this field - why has she only one sceptic paper to her name?
     

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