Clinton Hypothetically Calls on Chinese to Interfere in the 2020 Elections on Behalf of Democrats

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we know Russia influenced the election... thus they helped Trump win, now you could say without their help he may of still won, but you can't prove that, it you can.. prove it
     
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    How many votes did they change?

    $46,000 in ads from the Russians supersedes about $46+ million in ads from the Democrats? Really? democrat donors need to get after their benefactors for wasting their money then. If $46K in ads can get Trump elected, but $46 million can't get Hillary elected, there seems to be some undisclosed overhead there. Democrat donors need to demand more for their money than that.
     
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    When you can actually ask an intelligent question I will be happy to answer. Till then feel free to babble on.
     
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    I'll take that as....."I have no answer so I have to dodge your questions."
     
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    She did no such thing. She pointed out the hypocrisy of the Trump supporters by showing that they think it is absolutely fine for him to call on Russia to hack into systems to find things about Clinton, but they would be apoplectic if a Dem candidate called on China to do the same thing.
     
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    No I said you have you have to ask an intelligent question to get an answer. As Republicans often say just one illegal vote is too many. Wonder why the same stardard doesn't apply to votes changed due to Russia meddling in our election? Could It possibly be that the Rusdian meddling helped Trump while Republicans think every illegal vote helps the Democrats? Could that be why Republicans keep trying to disinfranchise poor peopke and blacks while making no effort at all to prevent Russian meddling in the future?
     
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    The artful dodger.
     
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    Nope you failed to ask an intelligent question. I just expanded to show Republican hypicracy. Or maybe you are foolish enough to think that asking for a specific number when of coyrse there is none invalidate the point of the discussion.

    Like my denying all issues aroud illegal voting by askibg for a specific number. Same applies to the effect of Russian attempts at influencing the election. For certain there were votes changed but no one can know the actual number or if the election would have turned out differentlynwithout the Rusdian interference.
     
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    I'll put you down as refusing to answer due to embarrassment.
     
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    No put me down as recognizing an idiotic try at attempting to invalidate a discussion by asking a question for which there is no numerical answer. In fact I will bet that even you with all your intellectual resources can't even answer your own question.
     
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    All Dems have to do is ask Feinstein, she can set them all up with Chinese spies...
     
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    ;)
     
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    Here lets try a similar question for you On illegal immigrant voting. How many illegal immigrants voted in the last Presidential election. . Now unless of course you can give me a specific number We can all conclude that there is no problem with illegal immigrants voting. How does that analogy work for you?
     
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    Big difference between candidates for office and a sitting president.
     
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    You don't answer my questions I won't answer yours.
     
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    No I just pointed out the stupidity of yours by posting a similar question from the other side. Sorry you didn't understand.
     
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    You are still stumped for an answer. I don't think the question is stupid.
     
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    Asking a question when you know there is no answer isn't stupid in your mind? What would be stupid is for anyone to respond to such an obviously simple minded trap!
     
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    No, asking a question that forces an opponent into a corner is simply good debate technique.
     
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    No one knows for sure or can prove how many people were influenced enough to change their vote from Facebook ads. And Russia was spreading Trump hate as well, just like the MSM was. They were and still are trying to get Americans to hate each other to destabilize the country. How many people didn't vote for Trump because they thought he was racist or homophobic because MSNBC told them so, but could never provide any proof? How many thought Trump actually grabbed women's pu$$ies and like raped them n' stuff? MSNBC and CNN said he did. Late night talk shows implied he did. But he didn't.

    You can't condemn someone with no proof and then say, you're only innocent unless you prove you're innocent. Uuuuum, thats not how it works son. This isn't the witch trials. Or, is it, because its sure a witch hunt=) You have to prove GUILT. NO ONE has proven Trump or Russia did anything to change a single vote. And there is no proof Trump worked with Russia at all. Its over man, its over.
     
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    exactly, Russia helped Trump win, if it was the help that put him over the top by those few thousand votes in key state.. we will never know for sure

    anyone mainly watching MSNBC is gonna vote democrat
    same as anyone mainly watching FOX is gonna vote republican

    Trump said those things, blame Trump, not the media for reporting that he said those things

    so your saying Clinton never used personal email as she was never found guilty in a court of law... IE innocent until proven guilty.... :)

    the Trump tower meeting did happen, Trump did fire Comey, will he every be charged with a crime over it... probably not
     
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    Clinton Hypothetically Calls on Chinese to Interfere in the 2020 Elections on Behalf of Democrats
    This is a good example of how an extremist opposition can take an innocent statement out of context & twist it into something diabolical & ugly for propagandist gain. This whole statement is intentionally taken out of context, to make it appear criminal. But Hillary was involved in a conversation with a TV news person, making fun of the whole concept of having foreign nations involved in helping our political candidates. Naturally, conservatives twisted it into something ugly by pretending she was serious, and spreading the LIE that she was acting just like Trump did during the 2016 campaign. Clearly, Trump's dishonesty is shared by his supporters.
     
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    Not exactly. There is no proof Russian influence changed a single vote. All they did was troll on FB, Twitter and forums like these for both sides.

    And Trump hasn’t said what the MSM has claimed. He NEVER called Nazis good people. He NEVER called all Mexicans murders or rapists. He never grabbed a womans private’s without her permission first. The MSM has been lying and twisting his words since he announced his run. And there was nothing illegal about firing Comey.

    And Clinton was found guilty of destroying emails and having that server. It was proven. She and Obama also did lie about Benghazi. FBI proved that too. She just wasn’t charged with anything because she apparently didn’t “intend” to do anything wrong. ;) That was her “out”. Intent.
     
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    Trump asked Russia to interfere in the election, we have it on video (not to mention the Trump tower meeting), Hillary is not a candidate, Trump was... had Trump lost... no one would of cared

    that is why you do not publicly appear to cheat or cover up someone helping you cheat ... cause you just might win

    Nixon did a cover up, then Trump tried to do the same.... the coverup is what usually gets them
     
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    never said they did, I said they helped Trump win, we have no idea if he would of lost without their help

    he said the people chanting "blood and soil, Jews will not replace us" were fine people - remember the context, it was a young women being run over by one of these fine people....

    he could of just denounced the violence, condolences to the family and moved on, but not Trump... he had to call them fine people
     
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