CNN Poll: More see Trump win likely as Biden leads crowded Democratic field

The "covert" part is the real problem. In this instance the biased MSM covered up a covert attempt to rig an election.

"But left unmentioned in the Times story was that one of its authors learned about the Alabama campaign when he spoke at an off-the-record meeting organized by the same group who ran the operation. A copy of a confidential report about the Alabama effort, obtained by BuzzFeed News, raises new questions about whether the project was — as the Times said — an “experiment,” or whether it was a straightforward Democratic attempt to replicate the model of the Russian Internet Research Agency."

BUZZFEED, A NY Times Reporter Spoke At An Event Organized By Alabama Dirty Tricksters, New York Times reporter Scott Shane spoke at an event organized by the group who ran a disinformation op aimed at helping defeat Roy Moore in Alabama., By Craig Silverman, BuzzFeed News Reporter, Posted on December 27, 2018. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...-tricksters-invited-a-new-york-times-reporter

Even Jill Abramson has now acknowledged that the NYT and the MSM will be of little use to its readers as credible news sources while operating as a partisan arm of the DP and its candidates.

 

The "progressive" "left" used to know how dangerous clandestine secret police/spy agencies were to our democratic constitutional republic.

"The secret war
The FBI placed citizens under surveillance. Surrounded them with agents, penetrated their organizations with a network of informers, wired their offices and homes, gathered confidential information on their plans and activities, and then secretly turned around and used its agents, informers, and information to "expose, disrupt, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" dissent." The Lawless State, The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, Morton H. Halperin, Jerry J. Bermin, Robert L. Borosage, and Christine M. Marwick, Penguin Books, NY, 1977. p. 124.

Political expediency clearly can lead to political amnesia.

 

When the NYT cannot be trusted to expose and denounce propaganda why should anyone view VOA as anything but what it is - a propaganda organ of the USG. Of course the VOA is not a covert propaganda source - it is an example of truth in labelling.
Covert propaganda and disinformation is the real problem.

 

A potential real problem, anyway.

 

It is pathetic that the political system in the U.S. has turned off all the people that would be good at serving as president. All we get are those who will put up with anything to get political power. Those are last people that should have it.

 

The VOA publishing the official USG slant is arguably a good thing.

 

This is complete and utter gibberish. Of course Russia is in the propaganda business .. this however does not make the US not in the propaganda business.

Our Mainstream media is a friggen joke in many respects - a propaganda arm of the State.

Regardless Russia stating that the US media can not be trusted is not disinformation - it is a statement of FACT.

Only a brainwashed idiot - or someone who just does not pay attention - does not realize this.

How many examples would you like ?

 

Check out this link - http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc...-panel-at-ron-paul-institute-conference-2017/

 

Ty. Very revealing - is their a transcript?
It is very difficult for clandestine secret police/spy agencies to avoid committing serious crimes.

"The FBI worked to create violent confrontations between factions on the radical left. The bureau was prepared in this case to commit violent acts itself. In New York, agents set cars on fire with "Molotov cocktails," making it appear that one faction was attacking another. FBI agents conducted at least five such bombings in 1973 and 1974." The Lawless State, The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, Morton H. Halperin, Jerry J. Bermin, Robert L. Borosage, and Christine M. Marwick, Penguin Books, NY, 1977. p. 125.

 

I can't wait. Honestly, the next two full years of cringe worthy behavior from Liz.... Where's the popcorn.....

 

It is difficult for many individuals to accept that MSM news sources they have relied on for decades have become unreliable. They are not "idiots" - it will take time for many of them to adjust.

"Jill Abramson, who was the top news executive at the Gray Lady from 2011 to 2014, writes in “Merchants of Truth” that the biased coverage of her successor Dean Baquet is hurting the newspaper’s credibility.

“Though Baquet said publicly he didn’t want the Times to be the opposition party, his news pages were unmistakably anti-Trump,” writes Abramson, who also faults the Washington Post for its reporting. “Some headlines contained raw opinion, as did some of the stories that were labeled as news analysis.”
She said the coverage of Trump conflicts with the principles espoused by former Times publisher Adolph Ochs in 1896 to report the news impartially “without fear or favor.”

“The more anti-Trump the Times was perceived to be, the more it was mistrusted for being biased. Ochs’s vow to cover the news without fear or favor sounded like an impossible promise in such a polarized environment,” Abramson writes in the book."
NEW YORK POST, Ex-New York Times editor rips paper as ‘unmistakably anti-Trump’, By Mark Moore, January 2, 2019.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/02/ex-new-york-times-editor-rips-paper-as-unmistakably-anti-trump/

All they have to do is start focusing on the 4Ws+1H to recover some credibility. Might be easier if they stopped recruiting J school grads.

 

There could be somewhere but that link is all I have on the topic.
For every one of these criminal actions we know about - how many you figure we don't ? That's "classified" we are told and we accept this - as if - this was a legitimate national security issue.

Remember when the Pentagon got caught lying for propaganda purposes when Jessica Lynch testified in congress.
Pat Tillman - same thing
Nayirah testimony - same thing.

I have little doubt that it was the White Helmets (essentially paid CIA operatives) did at least one chemical weapons false flag in Syria.

We are like the frog in a pot of heated water that does not realize it is being boiled to death.

 

The classification system does seem to be primarily concerned with covering up government crimes and blunders.

“It's why liberal thinkers have traditionally abhorred secret courts, secret surveillance and secret evidence, and in the past would have reflexively discouraged the news media from printing the unverified or unverifiable charges emanating from such secret sources. But because it's Donald Trump, no one seems to care.

We should care. The uncertainty has led to widespread public terror, mass media hysteria and excess, and possibly even panic in the White House itself, where, who knows, Trump may even have risked military confrontation with Russia in an effort to shake the collusion accusations. All of this is exacerbated by the constant stream of leaks and hints at mother lodes of evidence that are just around the corner. It's quite literally driving the country crazy.

The public deserves to know what's going on. It deserved to know before the election, it deserved to know before the inauguration, and it deserves to know now.”
THE ROLLING STONE, How Did Russiagate Start?, By Matt Taibbi, 5/19/17.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-how-did-russiagate-start-w482262

The secret police/spy agencies of the US with help from their ilk in MI6/FSB have been running clandestine operations against Trump for 3 years now.
"Investigating" wire tapping, surveilling, infiltrating, leaking - non-stop since he declared his candidacy.

 

Trump will be the nominee because he simply won't be beat in the primaries.

There are only two potential candidates who could beat Trump and neither will get past the first round of the Democratic primaries.

Although Bernie Sanders is not one of them, the fact that the DNC is going after Bernie Sanders with a MeToo accusation indicates that they have already narrowed their field related to who will get the major portion of their money.

 

I would venture it's because they are trying to protect Biden from all these rumors (that are likely false rumors anyway).

 

All True - and Mueller is a true goblin with a long track record of being a criminal insider. He was one of those who helped orchestrate the propaganda that led to the Iraq war. The persecution and police state tactics used on the whistleblowers in the previous video - Mueller was involved. .. and this is the tip of the iceberg should anyone do a little research on this guy. (something the MSM is obviously ignoring).

 

It does not take a lot of research uncover the real Robert Mueller.

“Still, the problems with Justice persisted. And the timing of some of Mr. Mueller's moves raised eyebrows. In September 1991, Justice indicted six BCCI figures and a reputed Colombian drug lord on racketeering charges. The indictment was unveiled just minutes after then-Congressman Charles Schumer issued a report sharply critical of Justice Department handling of the case. ... Mr. Mueller also engaged in a running series of battles with the Manhattan District Attorney, Robert Morgenthau. According to news reports over the years, Justice prosecutors were instructed not to cooperate with Mr. Morgenthau's office, documents were withheld, and attempts were made to block other federal agencies from cooperating.

The December 1991 settlement of criminal charges against BCCI, which Terwilliger described as "a fair arrangement," uncovered "only $1.5 billion in the coffers of a bank that once held $22 billion in deposits." This missing money has never been traced.”
FBI DIRECTOR MUELLER WAS AT CENTER OF ALLEGED BCCI COVERUP IN 1991, Published: May 26, 2009.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/FBI_...ed_BCCI_coverup_in_1991/4304/0/20/20/Y/M.html

 

Interesting - this is one more thing to add to the list. I have a bunch of other things - its a huge list - showing what a corrupt scumbag Mueller is. Someone who completely lacks integrity, honesty and credibility. Someone who is willing to do anything to further his agenda - justice be damned.

In one case - he ignored evidence which showed a fellow he was after was not guilty - and doubled down on the ability of some dogs to "sniff out guilt". http://archive.boston.com/bostonglo...6/15/revisiting_mueller_and_the_anthrax_case/

 

I don't see anything untoward in this picture nor in Trump patting Ivanka's hip as he embraces her, nothing Game of Thrones here. As for the question Biden would simply be a disaster which is not to say the Dems won't out him forward, they have an internal logic all of their own (McGovern, Dukakis, etc).

 

My list is growing too. Here is another article about the Great Anthrax Witch Hunt:

"First, Jim Comey and Bob Mueller have a long history as professional allies. For Mueller to be brought in to investigate the behavior of the guy who sacked Comey seems a conflict of interest."

"These two guys, working in tandem, have a track record of bureaucratic infighting – with another Republican White House as their shared adversary -- that belies their reputations for being above political intrigue. This is not news."

"The third and most important factor tempering my enthusiasm for the new special prosecutor is that Comey and Mueller badly bungled the biggest case they ever handled. They botched the investigation of the 2001 anthrax letter attacks that took five lives and infected 17 other people, shut down the U.S. Capitol and Washington’s mail system, solidified the Bush administration’s antipathy for Iraq, and eventually, when the facts finally came out, made the FBI look feckless, incompetent, and easily manipulated by outside political pressure."

"In truth, Hatfill was an implausible suspect from the outset. He was a virologist who never handled anthrax, which is a bacterium. (Ivins, by contrast, shared ownership of anthrax patents, was diagnosed as having paranoid personality disorder, and had a habit of stalking and threatening people with anonymous letters – including the woman who provided the long-ignored tip to the FBI). So what evidence did the FBI have against Hatfill? There was none, so the agency did a Hail Mary, importing two bloodhounds from California whose handlers claimed could sniff the scent of the killer on the anthrax-tainted letters. These dogs were shown to Hatfill, who promptly petted them. When the dogs responded favorably, their handlers told the FBI that they’d “alerted” on Hatfill and that he must be the killer."

REAL CLEAR POLITICS, When Comey and Mueller Bungled the Anthrax Case, By Carl M. Cannon, RCP Staff, May 21, 2017.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._mueller_bungled_the_anthrax_case_133953.html

 

I don't think Biden will be Trump's opponent in 2020 if Trump decides to run. He'll be 78 and I think the get up and go, the fire in the belly has left him. I tend to think the Democrats will go with a fresher, younger face. That is if they learned anything from 2016.

The last CNN poll was taken on 23 Oct and had Clinton ahead by six. That poll was so old that even RCP didn't include it in their averages. Here is RCP's averages. Clinton up by 3 in the popular vote, she won it by 2 points.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

This far out, i wouldn't even think about potential match ups. But I would pay attention to what the polls tell us as far as wanting Trump to run again in 2020. nationwide only 34% state they want him to run again, 54% say no. But more important in my book isn't the nation's stats. It is what independents think. They make up between 40-43% of the total electorate depending on the poll. Trump won the independent vote in 2016 46-42 over Hillary with 12% voting third party. The Republican Party is still the smaller of the two major parties, failure to win the independent vote would doom their's and Trump's chances. Question 64, independents state 29% want Trump to run again, 51% no with the rest unsure.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/oijdv5i5r9/econTabReport.pdf

That's a lot of independents to win over between now and 2020. More bad news on the independent voter front, Question 47A, 21% of independents have a very favorable view of Trump, 16% somewhat favorable, total favorable 37%. Now 40% of independents have a very unfavorable view of Trump with 11% somewhat unfavorable. Total 51% unfavorable. History shows folks usually don't vote for someone their dislike.

Trump was one lucky SOB in 2016 that his opponent was Hillary Clinton, the only democrat that independents disliked more than Trump. A total of 57% of Independents had an unfavorable view of Trump, but 70% had an unfavorable view of Clinton. Questions 10 and 11.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

2016 was an election where independents voted for the candidate they least wanted to lose, not for the one they wanted to win. We'll see what happens in 2020. But unless Trump can retrieve independent voter support, at least close to where he had it in 2016, the outlook of him winning is bleak. That is unless, the Democrats nominate another Hillary Clinton type candidate. Always possible.

 

Who’s Colin Powell?

 

Then you haven't seen the videos of this on Youtube for context. It is 10 out of 10 on the creepy scale.
One pre-teen/early teen girl after another he mobs them with affection and hands on them, ignoring everyone else in the room. It is downright painful to watch..he obviously has a fascination with very young girls.
This video has some comments that exagerate, you can skip past them...but watch his treatment of this girl... keep in mind he does not know this young girl. Can you imagine this is your daughter and your boss was handling her like this... she is clearly uncomfortable and confused, especially around the 1:00 mark where Joe grabs her arm and pulls her close to him again even though the photoshoot is over.

 

I don't know what polling sanders was using when he had those stats on his website. If you do, tell me and I will then find it and post the link. ha ha

I have never said all democrats are socialists, in fact, the number is quite small. Now, if you want to call a Commons, socialism, then most democrats are for a Commons, and you could use that as the conservatives do, to show most dems are socialists. But socialism involves no private ownership, and the State owning the means of production of goods and services and its distribution. So, even sanders is not for such a thing.

The democratic party are not socialists. No more than the GOP are fascists. Unless one wants to corrupt the original definition of socialism and fascism. And of course, many have done that, but it is just deceit, IMO. Indeed the DP are fully capitalists, and even support the anti FDR kind of capitalism that only looks out for the owner class, big banking, big corporations, and those elites who own the common stock of such institutions.

 

This post reinforces what the medical profession has now discovered.As Americas waist lines and asses have expanded their brains and ability to think have shrunk.