CNN suspends Chris Cuomo 'indefinitely' pending evaluation of his involvement in brother's scandals

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  1. FreshAir

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    you mean like Trump broke Presidential ethics? does the right really care about ethics?
     
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    Dude. We've been through this. I'm a libertarian, and I didn't vote for Trump. Remain on topic please, I know its difficult when its not going well for you but that's no occasion to 1) break forum rules by getting completely and totally off topic and 2) say something so objectively incorrect and foolish as to label me a Trump voter.
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    where did I say you were a Trump voter, no where

    what I said was true, not sure why you got so defensive
     
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    He quit his job at Sirius XM too. Said it was to spend more time with his family. Every time someone says they resigned or quit to spend more time with their families, the translation is "I was told that if I didn't quit on my own, I'd be fired."
     
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    Bryan Freedman is a high-profile entertainment lawyer. His firm, Freedman + Taitelman, has handled cases for Kevin Spacey, Michael Jackson's estate, and Megyn Kelly.
    Kelly's case bears some comparison to Cuomo's. She left NBC midway through her contract in acrimonious circumstances in 2019, but secured its full $69 million value through her lawyer, CNN reported.
    Cuomo may also seek damages, the Post reported. It also cited an unnamed CNN source who said the network had "no intention of paying Cuomo a penny."
     
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    Come off it. You used a whataboutism concerning first Trump, then 'the right'. Of which I am neither, as a libertarian I don't fit into a two axis paradigm, instead you'd need to use the four axis like this compass.png

    I didn't get defensive: I corrected you and expressed how 1) you intentionally deflecting so grossly off topic violates forum rules, which apparently matters to mods where I'm concerned but doesn't apply to you, and 2) how absolutely silly it is to bring up such a whataboutism with me as I'm neither of those things and those things are not the topic. Rather instead Mr. Cuomo's violation of journalistic ethics and your hilariously ostrichesque defense of same are the discussion of the moment in this thread. Remain focused, and please don't further check boxes in the "liberal internet argument checklist": You've already used denial and whataboutism and you're straying dangerously close to 'you seem mad'.
     
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    Cuomo has announced he will sue CNN if they don't pay him the $18 million remaining on his current contract???
     
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    Yup...

    Bryan Freedman is a high-profile entertainment lawyer. His firm, Freedman + Taitelman, has handled cases for Kevin Spacey, Michael Jackson's estate, and Megyn Kelly.
    Kelly's case bears some comparison to Cuomo's. She left NBC midway through her contract in acrimonious circumstances in 2019, but secured its full $69 million value through her lawyer, CNN reported.
    Cuomo may also seek damages, the Post reported. It also cited an unnamed CNN source who said the network had "no intention of paying Cuomo a penny."
     
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    Amazing people who spend their life talking bullshit in the media earn MILLIONS while workers who do real work and are essential to our society functioning earn next to nothing doing essential work.
     
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    It does feel a bit outrageous but maybe so that I don't get angry, I think of this in a different way. These journalists with a cult following, same as sports athletes, they make a lot of money because they bring entertainment to hundreds of millions of people. I do see a social value in it. I get home tired from work, I want some escapism, I want to put my mind to rest, so last night for example I tuned into Monday Night Football. Those athletes are being paid to entertain me and millions of people like me. Say, a stand-up comedian is paid a small amount of money in some obscure nightclub because he's entertaining, say, 30 patrons there. He's adding value to those 30 lives, that is, making them relax and laugh after a tough day at work. But the value is small because his reach is small. But if he were to achieve national prominence with a national comedy hour on TV that entertained millions of people, then he'd be adding more value to more people's lives, and would be paid more.

    The same can be said of some TV "journalists" who are entertainers rather than people who read up a raw version of the news. We know that from impartial news, US television channels have moved to catering to certain segments of society and certain ideologies, so concepts like the truth and the real impartial news are no longer valued. If I were a follower of Chris Cuomo and if I liked to watch his show (I'm not and I don't), I suppose he'd be entertaining me too, like the football players from the Bills and the Patriots did last night. So, given that his followers before he fell in disgrace were dozens of millions of people, he was paid a nice chunk.

    People would not be able to do essential work if they did not have leisure time when they laugh with comedians, admire athletic accomplishments rooting for their teams, and consume the "news" delivered to them a certain way by their favorite TV "journalists." People need that moment of alienation and escapism to be able to reset and be ready to resume their hard work the next day. So I wouldn't say that these entertainers are useless to society and don't perform an essential work.

    If you feel that they are useless, then you'd have to say that programmers of videogames are useless, or actors/actresses in movie pictures are useless, or musicians/singers are useless, or authors of novels are useless...

    Sure, they are not performing brain surgery, but maybe they are keeping the brain surgeon sane and able to continue to perform brain surgery.
     
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    Adding something to the above.

    I think the idea that someone who delivers added value to the lives of more people is supposed to be paid more than someone who reaches fewer people, is not absurd.

    I'm a physician. Say, I decide to take it easy (pre-retirement as I am) and have a slow pace at work; I decide to see 3 patients in the morning and 4 in the afternoon, spending one hour with each plus paperwork time. So hopefully I'm delivering better health to 7 people that day.

    Say, a younger/hungrier colleague is much more productive, sees 3 patients per hour, is faster with the paperwork, so he ends up seeing 9 patients in the morning and 12 in the afternoon. Hopefully he's delivering better health to 25 people that day.

    So, supposing that our difference in years/experience doesn't make a huge variation in our rate of compensation per patient, he'd be making more money than me, because he's reaching more people.

    How is that spontaneously regulated by society? Well, he generates more billing for the hospital, he's bringing more income to the hospital so financially he is a more productive employee so his chunk of the profits is bigger. I'm fine with that.

    Similarly, a lawyer that brings more business to the firm and is more productive in billing hours, adding value to more clients, gets paid a nice bonus at the end of the year if he's an associate, or shares in the profits with a higher rate if he's a partner.

    Let's say, a physician discovers a revolutionary healing method that results in a patent and he enters a relationship with a bioengineer who will make of the method something that can be made into a machine, and they get a company that will then make the machine they invented to apply their method, and will sell to others that under-patent machine and method. Now that physician is not just adding value to the 7-25 people he sees per day... he is adding value to the millions who have the condition that will benefit from his healing method. So he is paid much more, in royalties from his patent. The company recovers that money by selling the equipment to other physicians.

    How is the salary of entertainers such as sports athletes and movie actors regulated by society? Similarly, if a baseball player is mediocre and plays for AAA small team with a small group of followers, he is paid less. But if he is a huge MLB star player for a championship-caliber team, he is paid more. He reaches more people. It's self-regulated because the team sells more merchandise, more tickets, more TV rights, and the TV is paid more advertising money to air a game featuring that player and that team, as opposed to the mediocre AAA small team. So there's more money all around and the MLB player gets paid more, as the person who generates all that income and reaches millions of people, adding value to their lives.

    TV journalists for a small Pluto TV channel are paid less. Big anchors for CNN are paid more, and CNN recovers that in advertising fees.

    So is life in a capitalist society. It doesn't bother me.
     
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    LOOKS LIKE MORE PROBLEMS FOR CNN...

     
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    I've represented people like him in federal court. Ten years means ten years, minimum. No parole.
     
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    WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON AT CNN?

    CNN producer who worked with Chris Cuomo arrested for luring mother and 9-year-old daughter to engage in ‘unlawful sexual activity.’

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