Coincidence?

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Listen to what the biologist Weinstein said about this virus. This was after he and his peers discussed the virus. 3 things are involved and they look suspicious. He was on Rogan a couple weeks ago. Thing is a manipulated mutation can look natural. It's the odds of all three happening that looks suspect. The bat to human transmission looks to have happened in the lab. What other virus only makes some sick? But can be spread by those with no symptoms?

    If some scientists are questioning this who are you or I to dismiss it?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No postulate or theory that challenges the official narrative is ever covered by the mainstream. Not just this, but virtually all controversial events.

    Just as whistleblowers are censored or even prosecuted, their challenges are never discussed. That means something to the curious mind.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    How did they know is the most excellent question, and the only possible answer is that they had prior knowledge, just as certain people had prior knowledge regarding American and United Airlines and bought the stocks short, or as the several congresscritters knew about the stock market losses in Feb and unloaded or loaded up the correct stocks. Nothing new under the sun. Politicians look after their own.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Latest development!

    Had an interesting discussion with a staff doctor yesterday, he informed me hospital administration is reporting deaths that are not corona, as corona.

    He said: "People dying of heart attacks and other diseases were being reported as Covid19 deaths and protests have been ignored."

    There you have it, tough to find a better source imo.

    That is beyond suspicion or 'theory', its 'proof' of fraud, which means this thread was not allowed to mature before being moved to conspiracy 'theories'.

    Additionally all these tests are useless, they dont know if you have covid19 or some other corona virus, and same goes for the antibody tests.

    Its really bothersome to think this could be some guv sanctioned ploy.
     
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    Actually there are 3 signs it could be tweaked by man. That some say those signs are natural by mutation is only an opinion. For the other experts say it is possible they were engineered.

    There can't be certainty on either side and that is the fact.

    Question is can you trust China not to do it?

    Joey Diaz said as he was flying back to LA from NY he was shocked to see the plane filled with all Chinese. He flies every week to gigs. Were they sent here to spread the virus ? A few days later we get an outbreak.

    I would not put it past the CCP! To take down our economy. They are waging economic war against us. Prior administrations were sitting on their hands! Trump took them on. They want to get rid of trump.

    I am not certain but given what China is it has crossed my mind.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    If you think Snopes posted facts, thanks for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt you dont know what a fact is. Besides you have proven you have no idea how courts decide a valid condition, They do not require every utterance to be 100% 'perfect' to prove the truth of an event, however fanatical statist apologists on the other hand, well thats another story entirely.
     
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    Snopes isn't entirely reliable but as I clearly said, they at least provide direct references for their statements, unlike your regurgitated spam message. It's a lot like Wikipedia on that front - you don't need to accept what is written there unconditionally but it is a good source for independent references and links to primary sources.

    I've no idea why you're talking about courts since nothing has been presented that comes close to even an allegation of any specific criminal offence, let alone any actual evidence. And while it's true that the false statements don't automatically prove the entire thing to be false, they should be removed from any future assertions and the conclusions built upon them need to be readdressed.
     
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    Can you trust the US not to do it, is the better question, all things considered.

    The virus was engineered for "gain of function" at UNC in Chapel Hill. Fauci was involved in bending the financial rules in that effort, and he invited the Chinese woman from Wuhan to participate in those experiments.

    Would the same government that first used nukes on Japanese civilians do such a thing? Why not?
     
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    I would trust the US over the CCP. They harvest organs from prisoners and sell them.

    As much as I distrust my own govt ,I distrust China more.

    As I understand it if you want to study a virus you engineer it to cross over to humans . This supposedly was done in Wuhan. Question is, did it escape accidently or by intent? And unlike SARS 1 this one didn't go away. Was that engineered? Since the 3 things Weinstein mentioned could happen naturally or by manipulation we may never know.

    Its a perfect virus to attack an economy. At a time of economic warfare between us and China. Thanks to trump. And we should be at war with China after years of giving them the store.
     
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    Different strokes.

    If they would kill Pat Tillman and starve Venezuelans and others, spreading a little virus around is child's play.
     
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    But create economic havoc in an election year? If China wants to get rid of trump, what better way to do it?

    What would that be worth to the CCP? A million old people in China that don't work?
     
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    Congress, both the House and the Senate have a, to me anyway, annoying tendency to re-purpose legislation and it is pretty common. This Bill was originally about a moderate health care tax reform, "Middle Class Health Benefits Tax Repeal Act of 2019"

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/748/text/ih

    It remained as such until the Senate put it on the shelf last July - then they pulled it out, dusted it off and completely repurposed it this past March.
     
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    If the Democrats in the Clinton wing wanted to get rid of Trump, what's a better way to do it?

    The longer this goes on, the more obvious it becomes IMO.
     
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    Anything is possible. I don't keep track, so I'm not aware of the actual record of bills being renamed and repurposed. This is the first I've heard that claim.

    Seems odd to me.
     
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    It's pretty common I think. If you follow the link it should, I think, take you to a page that offers several versions of the Bill using a drop down selector.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, I've read all that.

    What I mean is that I've never been aware of such processes, but I don't keep track of things like that. So I'm curious as to how common it is over years?

    I do know that bills are sponsored by one or several, and that they always seek cosponsors, but I just never knew of repurposing and renaming. I don't doubt that it's possible, but I'm just curious as to how frequently it's happened over the decades.

    IMO, this is still most suspicious.
     
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    Ah - ok, gotcha.

    Here is an example of the same process at the state level. An 11 page piece of sewer legislation was turned into a 291 page pension reform law!



    https://www.npr.org/2018/12/13/6764...own-pension-law-that-sparked-teacher-protests


    Dirty Deeds, but not dirt cheap....
     
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    so you had talk with a staff doctor ... mmmkay ...
     

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