Colchester dog attack - baby killed.

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think brain-dead morons shouldn't be allowed to have children. Thankfully the kid was too young to have awareness. That's two in as many months, and there will be many more. Just check out the photo and weep?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37659304
     
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    Adding a dog any type of a dog as a member of the household by the numbers are far safer then adding a human.

    When you have ten of millions of dogs living in homes bad outcomes will occur from time to time but once more the risk is very low compare to humans.

    I still can remember when a neighbor came over to visit my mother with his two young children and decided that he needed to hit the kids to made them obey him.

    Only my young reflexes at the time save him from being hurt as a result, as I was able to catch our family dog in midair as he headed for the neighbor with his teeth bare.

    You did not hurt children around this dog.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    I knew before I started reading that it was going to be either a Staffy or a Pit. Turns out it was a Staffy 'type', which is code for English Pit.

    And no, I'm not condemning the breed/s (though they are absolutely not breeds I would ever have around children or small animals), I'm condemning the type of PEOPLE who are attracted to them. Almost always trash. They're attracted to such breeds for all the wrong reasons, so it's no wonder things go horribly wrong so often.

    Count how many trashy types in your neighbourhood own Golden Retrievers, or Border Collies, or Italian Greyhounds. Not many, I'll wager.

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    Yes, DOGS are safer than humans, but when you match low grade humans with problematic breeds, you get this.
     
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    BillRM Well-Known Member

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    In my childhood it was not pit bulls but Doberman Pinschers that was the devil dogs that would turn on their owners without reason.

    Any large dog can be dangerous in the wrong hands but it the humans who are using them as weapons that are the dangerous animals not the dogs.

    A woman I was dating had a Doberman and in the first few weeks of dating her I had become a fast friend to the dog which came in handy when she gotten loose and chase everyone for a few blocks off the streets.

    Now she was surely fast enough that she could had nail any of these people if she had wish to do so.

    When she finally allow me to catch up she indicated that she was not yet ready to go home by putting all her legs apart.

    She did not even have a collar on so there was no way I was going to drag her home so I picked this very large dog up and carry her home over my shoulder before some fool would come out with a gun or the cops would had shown up.

    She acted surprise likely due to the fact that the last time anyone picked her up was when she was a tiny puppy of no more then 20 pounds or so not her adult weight of 80 pounds.
     
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    BillRM Well-Known Member

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    The dogs population in my fence in community run the spectrum from all manner of small dogs to the larger breeds.

    For myself my girlfriend picked up a retriever with a bit of pit bull when she came across him as a puppy walking down the middle of a busy road and today I had added a terrier who belonged to a friend who I had just found this morning had pass way alone but for his dog in his home a few days ago.

    My dogs and the cats for that matter come into my life in a random manner without regards to breeds and I seems not to be the only one this is true of.
     
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    Pit bulls are gentle dog that occasionally eat babies.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    All dogs, like all animals, are God's true and pure Innocents. They cannot do wrong, they don't know how, it isn't in their nature

    Sharks, Cobras, tigers, lions and bears (oh my) none of them mean us or any creature harm, but that doesn't mean we should have to put up with Louie Lowlife's pet lion eating our children either. Certain dogs should be restricted to certain people but we can't say that because then we might have to logically impinge on some insane felon's FFRREEEDDDOOMM to have his very own howitzer, which no human being can physically live without
     
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    We should never allow any adult male in the same household as young children as they by the numbers are far far more dangerous then Pit Bulls to children and for that matter to the women in the household.

    A pregnant woman is most at risk from the father to be then anyone else and pit bulls for that matter.
     
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    True, just leave sperm and money at the door.
     
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    Have you not taken notice that our legal system had been going in that direction for a few generations already?
     
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    What possible reason could society have for tolerating in its midst an animal that was bred to fight?
     
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    My dogs are rescues, also. I wouldn't dream of buying a dog from a breeder or worse, a pet shop. But for some reason, trailer trash seem inexplicably drawn to the fighting breeds (compensation for feeling powerless, perhaps?), and never want rescue dogs. They're entirely the wrong humans to own dogs, in other words. They go into it for the wrong reasons, and end up with the wrong breeds.

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    society doesn't want such dogs .. hence them being banned in many places. it's a certain type of 'chip on shoulder' trashy low life who wants such animals in their home.
     
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    We should ban guns by the same logic as banning large dogs as both in the wrong hands can prove deadly.

    Banning pit bull a breed that is no more dangerous then any of the larger breeds and due to nuts who should never own any large breed deciding that real men own pit bulls instead of the other breeds made them no more dangerous then the other large breeds minus the nuts turning some of them into fighting dogs instead of pets.

    If we are going to ban pit bulls we should ban all repeat all the large breeds of dogs as if we could wave a magic wand and wiped all pit bulls out of existence the nuts would just turn to one of the other breeds and turn some of their members into fighting dogs.

    We do not have a problem of having killer breeds of dogs but a problem of humans turning large dogs into dangerous fighting machines.

    I never had a pit bull in my life even those I think that my current dog might had some pit in him but I been around pit bulls that was raised and handle in the same manner as other dogs who are met to be pets not fighting machines and never seem anything that was more of a danger then any other large dog breed to people.
     
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    How on earth can you add a human to a family?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was returning home through my local park a couple of years ago; it was beginning to get dark. Suddenly from around a slight bend in the footpath out of my line of vision there was the sound of a large breed growling, and a small breed yelping in pain. Seconds later some Neanderthal appeared coming toward me in company with a breed of dog consisting only of bones, sinews, and muscle (a mid-sized terrier of some kind), and it had blood around its mouth; he yelled back from where the sounds had come from 'Well you should've picked it up you effing ****s.' When I got to the scene there were two distraught middle-aged women and a small mongrel dog which was obviously dead.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To parody that, the typical brain-dead owner of one of these kinds of dogs would say, after the baby had been attacked. 'Well he's never done it
    it before - he loves children.' :wall:
     
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    ... I'm condemning the type of PEOPLE who are attracted to them. Almost always trash. They're attracted to such breeds for all the wrong reasons, so it's no wonder things go horribly wrong so often.

    Having a dog like that makes the owner feel like they're some kind of bad-ass - pathetic...

    ... it actually makes them look like the ignoramuses they really are.
     
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    One can adopt a child----and they turn out bad (as behavior/personality is 80% genetic).

    Of course the most danger would occur by bringing in a troubled teen.
     
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    Some breeds of dogs I would never trust based on personal experience.

    Chow Chow. A college roommate had one and it was anti-social. Was aggressive towards a young child that came too close to its food.

    Pit Bull. I nice, ordinary guy I knew in my second college had two Pit Bulls and their puppies--(his wife was trashy, wore see-thru tops and later left him). Anyway, I watched his two dogs which had dug giant craters in his back yard were very powerful. I walked both of these beasts with a leash in each hand. They weren't mean, but I didn't trust them.
     
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    The advantage of dogs is you can have 'em fixed.
     
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    The chances of that are a thousand to one (and even then they wouldn't kill another family member by ripping chunks out of them), whereas the risks of an attack on the children - and adults - by having a killer dog in a family are only a matter of time, and 95% predictable within any given timescale. I fail to see the comparison.
     
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    Well, I'm not going to take my chances either way. We do have a very small poodle that barks as an early warning device---but is otherwise friendly.

    http://www.crimemagazine.com/adopte...-criminal-justice-ramifications-adopted-child

    However you are correct that a pill bull around one's home is far more likely to harm the family than an adopted kid.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I'm right in saying that there has never been even one case of someone being savaged to death by a poodle. :mrgreen: I'm pleased you derive pleasure from it - and I hope you 'pick up'! [​IMG]

    And I don't think there has been even one case of someone being killed by having chunks of their soft tissue ripped from their skeletal frame by an adopted kid.
     
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    Whatever are you talking about?
     
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    I forgot.
     

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