Colin Kaepernick, The National Anthem Is a Celebration of Slavery

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  1. dairyair

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    http://kids.laws.com/ninth-amendment

    What is your argument?
    It is still the gov't which is or isn't controlling the interests.
    Laws and the constitution is the USA guiding light. All laws come from the gov't. The constitution and subsequent amendments, also of the gov't.
    Everything about how this country is run, is, via the gov't.
     
  2. MRogersNhood

    MRogersNhood Banned

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    That is definitely not the principle behind The Constitution.That there's even a small percentage voicing dangerous brainwashed rhetoric like that post means it's time for Article V.
    I think I'll go pee outside. :roflol:
     
  3. dairyair

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    OK.
    Then what is a natural right, if not something a human does naturally? The poster I responded to was talking natural rights.
    And peeing is a dangerous brainwashed rhetoric? :roflol:
     
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  5. MRogersNhood

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    No,THIS is brainwashed rhetoric: "There are no natural rights. Except the might makes right rules. If you don't agree with might makes right, then you need some governing body to set the rule/right.

    Perhaps the gov't came from the constitution, but something has to enforce the constitution. States are granted rights, only per the constitution. Without that, there are no rights.
    So men created the constitution, which became the gov't, which grants those rights today.

    There is not one single inalienable right, except what the law/gov't says. Or, might says. I'll take the collective agreement over each personal might of rights."
    end your post

    If that's what's going on now,it's time for Article V.

    "Article the twelfth [Amendment X]

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." That's not Article V,that's the 12th amendment to show you how skewed your view of US government is.
     
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    Gad. These people are getting more ignorant by the freaking minute. You want changes, I'll tell you what: go back to Africa, make your stupid, freaking changes there.
     
  7. monkrules

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    Please, don't try to educate these idiots. The schools couldn't do it. No one can. Just let them whine til they get sick of themselves and go the f**k away.
     
  8. MRogersNhood

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    I think the schools are designed to miseducate them.

    like "See trigger word,be triggered" no matter the context.
     
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    Let Kaepernick keep flapping his trap. He's only demonstrating to a larger audience how nutty some segments of the country are becoming.
     
  10. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    I'll bet that the Star Spangled Banner gets dumped in the trash can within the next 25 years.
     
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    Oops.

    You wrote Africa instead of 1930's Germany.
     
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    Is that a good thing?
     
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    Actually, the American flag was the battle flag carried by hundreds of thousands of white Americans fighting to end slavery, of which hundreds of thousands of them were casualties. It also was the battle flag of Americans of all ethnicity fighting Nazi Germany, which officially declares blacks as inferior, and many, many of those Americans also were casualties.

    As the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished. :roll:

    But there were racist wars. The most notable being the founder of the Democratic Party, Andrew Jackson, who defied the US Supreme Court specifically for the purpose of killing black and native American people, and used capturing slaves who fled to then Spanish Florida as excuse to invade Florida to kill or re-enslave those runaway blacks.

    The fact is that in exchange for being throw a few crumbs of welfare money, most black voters sell their votes to their most brutal abusers and persecutors, the Democratic Party and its officials.

    The logo of the foulest forms of institutional racism is the mule of the Democratic Party.
     
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    Natural rights are not the "laws of the jungle", natural rights are the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These are the fundamental rights of all humans. They are not granted by government, they can only be taken by governments. Governments are created by men to either secure these rights, or to take these rights away from those they wish to govern.

    Your "might of rights"/"collective" are a couple of ways that governments are created and used, but neither can grant natural rights. Natural rights are inherent to the human condition...
     
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    You can't take away rights, things that can be taken away are privileges. Which is all we've ever had.
     
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    And then there is the real world where EVERY state in the North had abolished slavery by 1804.
     
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    Excellent point! Some people prefer the "facts" found in their own stinking fetid minds however.
     
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    It does not originate in their minds. Ignorance seems to be the principal product of the education system now.
     
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    And that is the same wrong headed argument that was used to justify slavery. Congratulations you are as evil as John C. Calhoon.
     
  21. Windigo

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    Not true at all. Most states in the North never abolished slavery. They prohibited the slave trade and phased out slavery by birth. The first generation would be born slaves 2nd born free. By about the 1850s those born into slavery had all died. But make no mistake slavery was never abolished nor slaves ever freed.
     
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    "The Declaration of Independence not only declared the colonies free of Britain, but it also helped to inspire Vermont to abolish slavery in its 1777 state constitution. By 1804, all Northern states had voted to abolish the institution of slavery within their borders.
    Slavery and the Making of America . The Slave Experience: Freedom ...
    www.pbs.org/wnet/slavery/experience/freedom/history.htmlPBS"


    What did you say?
     
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    Again, I was referring to the real world. Not the one imagined in your own mind.

     
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    Let me remind you that the argument attempts to show that through the loss of the south the Democratic party purged itself of racists. The premise here is that southern democrats switched sides to join supposedly racist Republicans that suddenly decided to include racism as a platform despite being against racism initially. The idea is that both the Southern Democrats, and all Republicans (*apparently) effectively abandoned all their political aspirations, in order to promote racism in politics.

    As I pointed out, the idea that someone like Wilson, an admitted racist, suddenly decided to abandon progressive philosophy in order to remain racist is ludicrous. So you can't have it both ways. Either Wilson was a racist Democrat champion of Democrat philosophy, or somehow you have to argue that Wilson was actually a Republican, something that no Republican would accept.
     
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    And the democrats are the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Not to mention Japanese and German interment, KKK, Presidential assassinations, mass murder of native americans.
     

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