Colleges&Universities closing or merging at alarming rate.

I have an upper 99th percentile IQ- and I tend to see it as much a curse as a blessing. At my age, hindsight shows me a lot not visible to me in youth, part of that being that IQ is far less a qualification than a restriction. Tends to narrow one's perceptive capacity, prevent you from understanding people in the normal range. Often, leads to a kind of blind arrogance. I was invited to a Mensa meeting in my early 20's- and even then, I was shocked by the disassociation of the group, like they lived in a bubble. It's something that some deal with, and some get contained by. I've seen some really great ideas and accomplishments come from ordinary people. I learned to understand that limitations are often more from our preconceived beliefs about people than reality. So I can get along with a wide variety of intelligence levels, but at the same time I am not tolerant of people whose thinking is not logical and rational, or is emotionally driven. Right now, our politics is full of that. Regardless of IQ numbers- it is what you accomplish that defines your abilities.

I will skip the comment on the jewish intelligence. I've known too many jews that were really sharp, and none I can recall that were dull.

 

Some f those that closed were technical institutes.

 

Jane Sanders has an interesting history with failing educational institutions.

 

I've meet the whole range of Jews, from brilliant to idiot. Because Jews are over represented in things like science, does not mean that all Jews are good at science. It would be like saying that because Blacks tend to be over represented in professional sports, that all Blacks are good at athletics. However Jews, on average, don't seem to be very athletic, or all that healthy for that matter, and Blacks on average, don't seem all that bright. Maybe there is a trade off.


I think that exact IQs don't necessarily have a lot of meaning. Originally IQ tests were used to weed out the slow folks. To identify who has to be told what to do. Identification of higher intelligence is only a secondary effect. I've read scientific articles that claim studies show, that above around 125 or so, IQs stop having meaning. I've read others that there seems to be break off points. Below around 80 or so, a little less than a fifth of the population, lack the intelligence to properly take care of themselves. At around 120 or so, is the lower limit, for the ability to grasp the knowledge to fully understand scientific and enginerring principles.

I grew up with people, mostly educators, always telling me that I had the abilities to do whatever I wanted. Not sure why but by 11th grade or so, I had gotten extremely competitive, as to tests. Sitting down to take a test, I got the same adrenaline rush, that I got when standing on the starting blocks at a swim meet or setting up for the first serve in a tennis match.

I remember one test. I think they called it the Career Assessment Test. It was a battery of tests designed to show where one's strengths lay, so as to guide one in one's career choices.

Earlier in the year in a history class, I, and 3 of my friends had gotten into trouble. You see, the four of us sat in a square, two sitting side by side, and the other two behind the first two. One day we had a pop quiz and all four of us got every question right except one. The same question with the same wrong answer. A lot of unfounded accusations were made, even hurtful ones questioning my intelligence and honesty. For the next test, the teacher had the four of us sit in the four corners of the room, to prevent any cheating, as he kept a watchful eye throughout. I aced the test, and my one friend who had come to my house and asked me to help him study, got the second highest score. The one who had made the hurtful accusations towards me, scored the worse. It was obvious who was cheating off if who. But he was a narcissist type who just got nasty about it.

At the time of the assessment, it was towards the end of the swim season and I had been begining to rub elbows with my soon to be girlfriend. Between the anger from the unfounded taunts of my former friend, and hyped up on adrenaline and hormones, and all the bravado of a teenager, I set out to Ace every test in the assessment, which I guess I did. The results of the tests was a series of categories, each with a ranking of hi, mid, or low. You then took all your highs and compared those categories to another chart, which then showed the career path(s) one was most suited for. After the results, my former friend was bragging, as he had gotten highs in half of the categories, and there were like 30 categories that were tested for. It was point set match, as he was holding up his results, easily seen from the color coded boxes. I held up mine, all highs, and watched him slink away.

Anyhow, to the point of the story. Among these tests were a couple that tested for manual dexterity. One was a block with a grid of holes, a pile of washers and a pile of pins. The idea was to place a pin through a washer and into a hole. You were timed and the goal was to get as many. See next post.

 

The goal was to pin as many washers to the board in the allotted time. You were given three tries with your best score of the three being counted. In the first round I missed a few but in the second and third round, I got them all.

The second test had pegs arranged in a grid in holes in a board. Each peg was painted red on one end and white on the other. The grid was probably 10x10. The goal was to turn over as many pegs as the time allows. The first round, I turned them all over, which attracted the attention of the test monitors. On the second round, with monitors hovering about, I again turned over every peg. On the third round, a crowd had gathered. There were those who were quite skeptical, even accusing me of having cheated.

With my reputation on the line, I even dropped a peg, stopped to pick it up, and still got all the pegs flipped. As I finished, I heard the chorus of, "but he used two hands".

 

There are over 5000 colleges and universities in the United States. Canada has a tenth of the US population and a fiftieth of the number of universities. I'd say the market is correcting itself.

 

Seriosly? "Average people do not do well in College?" That's bull.
Many "average" people have Commonsense that many high IQ people don't. Many jobs require good decision making and the ability to identify and fix problems facing Administrations and virtually any Business. I bet a Doctor or Lawyer or half the members of Congress are good at this.
Plus doing well in College definitely does not mean you will get a good job of do well in a job once Graduating.

 

AS noted before the average IQ of Sociology majors falls with average range.

 

Only about 1/3rd of people go to college. A good portion of them aren’t all that smart, not really. There is a clear step, in difference between average and higher intelligence. Just as much a difference as there is between those with average intelligence and those on the low end. Some writers put the number of steps at five. Below a certain step and certain knowledge and skills become impossible.

 

Sociology and Psychology majors are the worse. Those are the degrees people get when they get out of jail and want to become social workers.

 

Or once they flunk out of the Education dept. they move on down. I know when I was in college The education Psychology and Sociology departments were considered the ghetto area of the U.

 

They're all Growing though. Sounds like Junk. Did you have a chart maybe? Woah, University closures with a Chart.
What's this, the State-funded ones where you point at the flag and they say, Fung shei.

 

This is actually good news.

College and universities, as they're set up now, are a American scam. Experience holds more weight in gold than education, which is why trade schools are such goldmines. You get the experience first and foremost, you don't get that sitting in a room of 500 people and cramming 300 pages a night into your noggin that wont be able to retain that much information in that short period of time anyway. Colleges and universities bankrupt Americans every year, wasn't it not too long ago that the student debt exceeded the credit card debt combined in this country?

Ask yourself, how did people teach before there was formal education? There were composers before the dawn of colleges in the early 1800's, and I doubt Bach or Mozart were born with music theory programmed already in their heads.

 

hopefully dollar stores are next, and mattress stores too.

 

Ugh don't start talking about music. The line between self-satisfaction and training is so razor thin.