Comey vs. Trump, it is not going to be pretty

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    Why did Obama wait ?? Projecting above ??
     
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    You mean to impose the sanctions? I believe that if he had done so in the last part of the presidential campaign, the right would have tried to twist it to appear as if he were trying to tip the scale. And he believed (correctly) that it was too important an issue to be brushed off as just "campaign hype".

    And it probably would have, in fact, tipped the scale for Hillary. Which would also have been an improper thing to do for a President.

    We seem to have forgotten that throughout all our history and until a few months ago, Presidents did take care in faithfully executing the office that they held.
     
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    Does the logic above also explain the actions of Loretta Lynch, James Comey, and the rest of the DOJ in the "matter" of Hillary's private email server ??
     
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    No. What explains their actions are the numerous republican-led investigations that concluded that she did nothing illegal.

    How typical of you (and of the right) to change the subject every time you feel overwhelmed by facts and rational thought.
     
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    That's funny. Especially since Lynch is now under investigation.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...h-tried-stifle-clinton-email-probe/103140596/
     
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    You really are that dense. I'm guessing you voted for Trump.

    "I just reported what CNN reported." That is not all you said. You also said, "In other words, they have been lying all this time and the left wing has swallowed every bit of it." I listen to Fox.

    This is really pathetic, sad in a way. My local newspaper prints a retraction on the average of one a week. I would imagine most responsible media outlets throughout the country are about the same, maybe a little less, maybe a little more. Retractions go with territory.

    What does the White House do? They are so desperate to change the narrative they blow a relatively minor, everyday occurrence all out of proportion. To the White House, a simple retraction becomes a tragedy and freedom of the press has been trampled on by CNN.

    Deputy White House press secretary Sarah Sanders on Tuesday accused CNN of being a "disgrace" to journalism and cited a new undercover video in which a producer for the network suggested that the news media are sensationalizing its coverage of the Russia-collusion story.

    Sanders said during the White House press briefing Tuesday that President Trump is "frustrated" by the "constant barrage of fake news" about his administration and the federal investigation into whether his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia.

    She noted that CNN had to retract a Russia story last week, and told reporters in the room to watch the undercover video, produced by the conservative sting activist James O'Keefe.

    She told the White House press corps to watch a video on an obscure conservative website! This woman represents the President of the United States. What a joke.

    Trump has launched a Twitter storm over all of this. He is like a man possessed.

    This is all over a commonplace retraction and a devious video taken without permission of a CNN producer of medical shows talking about a political controversy, and what he says has been said countless times by Trump and his associates.

    This is sad. My word, we are talking about the President here.
     
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    This is what Trump doesn't want you to know.

    Washington (CNN)Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort filed documents with the Justice Department showing his consulting firm was paid more than $17 million between 2012 and 2014 for work on behalf of a pro-Russia political party in Ukraine.

    The filing completed Manafort's registration under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA, one of several legal issues that have been the focus of scrutiny by the FBI and Justice Department prosecutors, according to US officials briefed on the investigation.
    The registration doesn't end the years-long US probe of Manafort and his firm which, because of Manafort's role as Trump campaign chairman last year, have become part of the broader investigation now led by special counsel Robert Mueller looking into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.


    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/politics/manafort-registers-foreign-agent/index.html

    That's twice. According to Fox News, former national security adviser Michael Flynn was paid more than $67,000 by Russian companies before the presidential election, according to documents released in mid-March.

    That's not all where Flynn is concerned. The former national security adviser Trump—who lasted only 22 days in the job—is at the center of various investigations. He has drawn scrutiny for his contacts with the Russian government (and for lying about those contacts), for his pocketing of $45,000 from Kremlin-backed RT (and his failure to disclose the payment), for his lobbying for Turkish interests (and his failure to disclose that as well), and for attending a meeting with Turkish officials during which a plan reportedly was discussed for abducting a US-based foe of that country’s president. But one Flynn mystery has received little attention: What was the original source of the $530,000 he was paid last summer and fall—when he was Trump’s top national security aide—to be an agent for Turkish interests?

    Some say Flynn is singing like a canary to Mueller's investigators.

    More and more it is beginning to look like Trump's campaign staff colluded with the Russians when they interfered in our election. There is an awful lot of people associated with Russia who are also associated with Trump.

    Another good example is Trump's attorney general, Jeff Sessions. He met with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, twice in 2016 while a member of Trump's campaign staff. He then lied about it at his Senate confirmation hearing. Sessions claimed meeting Kislyak was in the performance of his duties. In 2016, of the 26 members of the Senate Armed Services Committee, only one member met with Kislyak, Jeff Sessions. Sessions recused himself from the FBI investigation involving Trump's campaign staff and the Russians.

    Others on Trump's campaign staff who had Russian connections include Carter Page, former Trump foreign policy adviser; Roger Stone, informal adviser; and JD Gordon, former Trump campaign national security adviser.

    Either Trump's staff colluded with the Russians or Trump did a lousy job of vetting his personnel. It's one or the other. There is no third choice.

    Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser, is also a focus of the FBI investigation for his contacts with Russia.

    It is no wonder Trump is trying desperately to change the narrative. He is terrified of Mueller's investigative staff.

    Is this positive proof of collusion? Of course not, but it is strong circumstantial evidence.
     
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    Trump Derangement Syndrome. And Trump is benefiting from it. CNN - it's reputation has been mortally damaged. They are toast except for the TDS afflicted who may keep it afloat.
     
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    The comedy continues. Putin thanks you for your small efforts. This is too funny.
     
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    Of course! I mean...Republicans took over Congress in 2010. And their sole mission has been to repeal Obamacare. 92 times, they have tried and failed. Now that the approval rating for repealing Obamacare is down to 19%, they're going to need something else to squander-tax payer money on. And since there have been only 9 investigations that have found nothing illegal, nothing keeps them from going at it 83 more times.
     
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    Come'on man. Even the brass at CNN (Zucker, Jones, Bonifeld, .... not to mention the reporters who were fired) which is the spokesman for TDS admits the Russian conspiracy theory is a "nothing burger". But they continue to push the false narrative to get ratings from those afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome who continue to serve as Putin's Useful Idiots.
     
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    The important thing is that the FBI and the Special Counsel don't think that Trump's continuous obstruction of the investigation about Russia (booth the part about interference with the elections and about Trump's lackeys' involved in money laundering) is not a "nothing burger".
     
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    Trump Derangement Syndrome. More examples of PUI's in action. Where's the evidence and where's the crime ?? There aren't any identified yet except for the leaking of Flynn's name. The problem for the D's is that the crimes are all on their side and now fair game for Mr. Mueller. This entire phony investigation is turning in Trump's favor. The public sees the D's obsessed with Russia and with no economic message. Carry on PUI's.
     

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