Congress hurtles toward shutdown

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Link proving the entire CNN company thought civilization was going to end.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    If you simply want trade insults look elsewhere, my post stand.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Which did not happened and again you read entirely wrong. I acted incredulus to the claim Bush should have and could have vetoed the Democrats 2009 budget. Get your facts straight and stop trying to misrepresent what I post.
     
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    I tried to have a serious discussion with you, but all you could manage was repeat propaganda you've been fed.

    No need to reply to my posts. I comment on what I see.
     
  5. Zorro

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    If the monetary base exceeds the supply capability of a system, inflation will result. That does not impact the plain fact that expanding supply allows for inflation free growth.

    For example:

    If demand exceeds supply and money supply is adequate for inflation to form, it will. If money supply is restricted to the amount of supply, it won't. Let's call this level A.

    Now if supply production increases and the same circumstances occur then the level where inflation free growth can be maintained is the new increased supply level.

    Ergo- increasing supply, increases potential real GDP.
     
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    Have you allowed yourself to be infected with bigotry? You really should get your head out of that, it will rot your mind.
     
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    Your inability to carry on an intellectual debate on the facts and the data noted.
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    Rather simplistic, but you're on the right track. There are asset values and the velocity of money to consider.
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    You're the guy parroting a political line.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    One of us is an economist and one of us spouts what he hears in the news.
     
  11. Zorro

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    I wouldn't pat yourself on the back too hard, you haven't been covering yourself with glory.

    Liberals livid after deal to end shutdown.

    To be fair, they're almost always livid about something.


    Today's story, however, is chock full of schadenfreudeliciousness.

    As the third day of the shutdown dawned, liberal advocates and immigration groups fired off a joint statement blasting as “unacceptable” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s offer merely to hold a vote on immigration — with no promises for action from the House or White House — in exchange for Democratic votes to reopen the government. But three hours later, Democratic senators agreed to just those terms — sparking anger on the left.

    “Millions of people flooded the streets of every major American city to stand up to Trump this weekend,” tweeted Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of the influential activist network Indivisible. “Your constituents want you to fight. How can you possibly not understand that?”

    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Monday argued Democrats secured critical assurance for Dreamers, who are at risk for deportation as soon as March after President Donald Trump’s decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

    “We have a way to address the fate of the Dreamers, starting right now instead of waiting until March,” Schumer said on the floor.

    But activist groups that have provided his caucus crucial firepower during fights against GOP health care and tax bills were not buying that explanation.

    Murshed Zaheed, political director of the liberal group CREDO Action, said Democrats’ decision shows Schumer’s willingness to betray progressives.

    “Call it the #SchumerSellout,” he said in an interview. “Hashtagged.”

    "Hashtagged?" Oh, my -- you can almost see Zaheed's jazz hands as he says it.

    Anyway, my message today to our progressive friends is this: WELCOME TO OUR WORLD.

    Conservatives and right-leaning libertarians are used to our leadership caving to the slightest resistance, selling out our most-cherished beliefs in exchange for promises (from you people on the left) which you'll break by breakfast the next day.

    And our so-called leadership just folds anyway, time after time after time.

    We bitch and moan about it, sure -- but most of us lost the capacity for outrage when your typical Millennial was still wearing Underoos.

    So, snowflake, you have all the feelz because Chuck Schumer turned and ran like a nervous high-ranking Republican? Now you know what it's like to be on our side.

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/liveblogevent/tuesdays-hot-mic-41/entry-221900/
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    I've been involved in political fights and had to deal with angry leftwingers. Nothing other than them winning exactly what they want is good enough. They're every bit as difficult to manage as Trumpites on the right.
    The solution for the lefties is the same as for rightwingers--get America on your side and you'll be able to have your way. Until then, you risk people deciding you're too big for your britches.
    Yeah, I know ... the revolution starts now. :laughing: Americans don't like revolutions--they had theirs 250 years ago and pretty much like what they have.
    What do the lefties think--that McConnell is going to grovel?
    Zaheed has a couple of million cell phone followers. He's another "revolution now" type.
    The simple fact is that most Americans don't want what the hard right and hard left are pushing.
     
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    DEMS ON IMMIGRATION: THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW
    Here’s Chuck Schumer in 2009, saying “When we use phrases like ‘undocumented workers,’ we convey a message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration.” Don’t believe me? See:



    Now take in Bernie Sanders in 2007, saying guest workers are a bad idea for low wage Americans:



    Then there’s this wonderful clip of Sanders saying “open borders is a Koch brothers proposal.” Man those Koch brothers are really something, now that their idea is Democratic Party orthodoxy.



    I suppose if it’s guest voters instead of guest workers, Bernie’s okay with it.
     

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