Congressman prescribes ivermectin

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  1. LiveUninhibited

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    They have a lot of built up natural immunity (and some vaccination) from the previous waves, which were also undercounted. We know this because of serology.

    Their average age is 28, compared to 38 for the US. Age has a massive effect on whether cases are fatal or serious.

    Most of their deaths (in general, not just during covid) are at home without any cause of death recorded.

    Again, this is why we use controlled studies when possible to figure things out.
     
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    Your article is full of lies .. just like a similar BBC article.. There are some flawed studies .. over 60 others that are not flawed .. now go and learn.. What do you think pneumonia is .. if not a parasite ?

    The fake news is coming from the mainstream .. and is deeply troubling how propaganda is being used to manipulate the masses.
     
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    Some people perhaps should take the vax .. those who are immune compromised/ Obese/ have comorbidities. For the rest it is a not a good idea .. having a risk of harm greater than that of covid .. and to not become "super spreaders" as this is what has happened to those who take the vax.
     
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    We have and the majority of those ‘studies’ are anecdotal or badly designed
     
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    Facebook falsehoods. Research please
     
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    Say what? You mean THIS guy who has been fought lying through his teeth?
    https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93936
    Certainly NOT “one of the most published doctors in the world” and he is a cardiologist NOT an epidemiologist
     
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    The FDA, like the TGA in Australia are there for a reason. They also stopped Alex Jones from selling his frankly dangerous as hell nostrums. AND some of the other twaddle such as hydrogen peroxide inhalation’s - guaranteed to rot your lungs
     
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    That’s difference between your evidence and ours. Yours comes from a few isolated anecdotal occurrences, ours comes from institutions backed by literally, hundreds of working doctors and medical technicians from 171 medical research facilities and hundreds of participating hospitals. The comparison isn’t worth discussing.
     
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    Hasty generalization. The fact that the FDA has stopped snake oil sales does not imply that ONLY fda approved treatments are safe.
     
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    Not sure why you are talking about peroxide ? What does that have to do with ivermectin. What I am sure about .. is that you have no clue what you are talking about. I have looked at a number of studies personally - and have the academic accumen to understand what it is that I am reading.. You on the other hand have never read a single study - and even if you did might not able to figure things out.

    The "Fake News" and Lies .. are coming from the Gov't .. what part of this did you not understand from the first post ? Sure there is some Fake BS on crack websites in relation to covid .. but this does not excuse the Gov't lies.

    As stated previousy .. is extremely disturbing .. CDC announced 2 months ago that vaxed transmit just as easily as non vaxed..

    Given this fact -- why are the mandates still in place ? and what part of "CDC announced this 2 months ago" is not getting through the kool-aid you have been ingesting.
     
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    Well, yes, he ABSOLUTELY IS one of the most-published doctors in the world.
     
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    Do you know what Epidemiology is ? "The study of desease and how it spreads" . who would be better ?

    Hmmm .. better at what .. predicting how a diseast spreads .. various statistical measurements -- check and check.
    better at what else ? -- telling us how the virus will mutate ? No ... Telling us whether or not the virus is transmitted by vaxed folks Yes. and it is official vaxed trasmit just as much as unvaxed .. this is what the statistics state .. about 90% of what an epidemiologist does.

    Good - vunderbar -- No epidemiologist with any integrity is going to make the claims that Fauci and the clowns on CNN have been making .. demonizing the unvaxed as "Harming Children .. harming everying around them .. and so on".

    Sure .. since the CDC - albeit begrudgingly -- with plenty of after the fact apology for the vax . .. pumping it up "everyone should still take it"

    BUT .... did the media apologize for and retract previous reporting .. No .. they did not ..the transmission narrative kind of has been slowly fading away .. still inferred however by many .. but that won't last much longer.

    What about "Ivermectin" once again .. no epidemiologist with any integrity is going to claim Ivermectin is not safe - relative to other treatments.

    Thing is though .. a cardiologist should have a pretty good grasp on statistics .. well above what is needed to interpret some stats as well as an epidemiologist in any case.

    but -- what about ivermectin ? what about the second war - as there are two wars going on ... and is the second war which kills 9 our of 10 folks that die .. as they die not from "Covid" per say - -- attacking one's heart or some wierd thing .. but from pneumonia.

    And now we are in my playground - ME - being the subject matter expert in the room .. Not your Doctor .. having friggen no clue in general .. Not Fauci ... my creds in this area are way out of his league .. and not medicine in general .. who is just learning about our biological "Consortia" ... the "Good Bugs" -

    So tell me about this horse medicine .. and the 3.5 Billion doses that have been given to humans - yet those are claiming "Untested" .. you made the proposterously nonsensical statement "anecdotal evidence"

    Tell me more .. about this second battle .. The virus hits your immune system - which weakens your immune system - allowing the "Bad Bugs" to get a foothold .. same as any other flue ..

    Your good bacteria and your immune system have a symbiotic relationship - as both want to fight off the bad guys .. who by the way - always win in the end .. as if you don't go from an asteroid hitting you . cancer and so on .. you will go from pneumonia .. bad guys win .. lungs fill up with fluid and - Slime as well if you want to be technical .. and dirt nap begins.

    So .. when immune system is weakened - is like your air support has been weakened .. and while this helps the ground troops to have in place .. or have a less impact as the vax gives .. what is going on on the ground is a war unto itself ..

    So what should we do ? Artillery to our Good bugs perhaps ? Vitimin C, D, zinc ? I like to put half a lemon . honey, cayanne pepper .. and while I don't do this .. some strong brandy has a sound basis.

    Now the honey - cayanne - have a biocidal effect on the bad bugs .. as does the booze .. try squeezing fresh lemon juice directly down your throat sometime .. hurts a bit .. but hurting those bad bugs way more .. pH change .. bacteria very sensitive to environmental changes .. pH, Salinity, your brain waves .. and temperature..

    Which is why .. when all else has failed .. you heat up .. last ditch effort .. change the temperature..

    Why would you not address the second war ? .. other elements in the treatment kits were anti biotics .. again a last ditch effort .. its pneumonia for God sakes ... if its taken hold .. like sepsis .. you gotta drop the nuclear bomb .. which is a shitty thing to do as you will wipe out some of the good bugs .. so last resort stuff .. but you got to..

    Some doctors have been taking folks inhalers away .. inhalers given for treatment .. not for asmatics . .. but is the same idea as an asmatic . .. so anti treatment has the rhetoric gone.

    This is medical malpractise . one hospital .. after kicking the doctor out for giving patents ivermectin .. but was also giving them A, C, Zinc along with antibiotics and inhalers .. took away the vitimins and the inhalers .. and antibiotics .. completly oblivious to the second war that is going on ... not even in keeping with how folks were previously treated for pneumonia ..

    anyways .. you were going to tell me where ivermectin fits into the equation -- this "anti parasitic" drug with anti inflamation properties.

    Hold on .. ?? can we not consider the "bad bugs" a form of parasite ? .. hmmm .. not quite sure .. perhaps your expertice can tell me .. as one thing is for sure .. your epidemiologist sure as hell cant.
     
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    Having your name on a lot of papers is NOT the same as publishing those papers. Many many professors get their names on the work of the students without really adding anything to the research other than their name

    actually it does - AND it is in alignment with the Australian TGA, the World Health Organisation ect ect etc

    Just because Faux news promotes it does not mean it is effective
     
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    Feeling better?

    Still does make a CARDIOLOGIST an expert in virology or epidemiology
     
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    Never said it did .. but Ad Hom Fallacy does not make his information false ... now go get a valid argument...
     
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    Thank you. I have watched him before.

    He is not an immunologist.

    There is some hope for Hydroxychloroquine. I wrote about this myself as early as May, 2020.

    There is no real evidence of help from Ivermectin.
     
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    Not quite. The biggest reason MDs tend to go with institutionally approved treatments is simple. Lawsuits. So even the courts tend to back treatments and drugs backed by trials and research of the “learned elites”
    . When is the last time you flew in a plane built by the engineers at Fix News....
     
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    People die in ‘engineered’ planes like the 737 Max.
     
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    The magic world....lawsuits. That’s what separates the quacks from general medicine that has doubled your life expectancy.
     
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    Every medicine starts out “unproven”. When it accumulates enough consensus on the part of participating research facilities and hospitals, it’s approved by the fda. I guess deniers of consensus medical research still don’t know who conducts the actual trials. They need a boogie man....don’t they. Look it up then tell us who does the actual trials before you blame drug companies and the fda for not approving this drug for COVID yet.Oh, it’s the “ learned elites” because frankly, Tucker is Medical moron.
     
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    This is dumb beyond words. A treatment doesn't magically go from dangerous to safe simply because the FDA blesses it.
     
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    The FDA relies on the studies pharma produces.
     
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    And a river a thousand paces wide is like a summer breeze. See I can use it too https://nonsense.x2d.org/
     
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    https://nonsense.x2d.org/

    I mean seriously wtf. My point, for the reading comprehension impaired, is that the fact that the fda hasn't (yet - and maybe they never will) approved invermectin for covid does not necessarily mean it isn't effective or safe.
     
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    Did you read the comments?
     

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