Conservatives Upset ‘The Good Fight’ Wants You To Punch Nazis

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  1. APACHERAT

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    It was the first time when a political party or a future adversary candidate sent agitators to a political rally held by another candidate of a different political-party during the primary campaigning.

    At first Donald Trump who was campaigning for the Republican nomination for President thought that these agitators who showed up at his rallies to disrupt and agitate were Bernie's "brown shirts " but we learned from Wikileaks that they were paid agitators working for Hillary Clinton, the DNC or George Soros.

    These leftist soldiers for hire accomplished what they wanted, provoking violence

    Who were those people wearing bandanas who were attacking others while leaving a Trump rally and were setting cars on fire and vandalizing cop cars ?

    They weren't Trump deplorables.


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    no it's not - but you prove my point
     
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    The minimal snowflake agitator was already in police custody when he got punched.

    Why was the agitator in police custody ?

    Wikileaks knows.
     
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    because he was anti-trump, protestors are often removed, that does not give a Trump supporter the right to sucker punch the guy... your proving my point trying to justify it
     
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    Bored and it is only mid-morning, huh?
     
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    I also believe in free speech but when you specifically use that speech to incite violence you crossed the line and telling people to go punch a Nazi is inciting violence even if the person you punch is a genuine Nazi
     
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    Have you ever been to a Trump rally ?

    I hear it's an "E ticket" event.

    Anyone who disrupts a Trump rally is fair game.

    There are no ROE at a Trump rally.
     
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    Kinda opposite to the MAGA white nationalist that attacked a camera man at a tRUMP speech. Divisive and hateful, and was fueled by tRUMP himself at the speech.

    No one should get violent over words.
     
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    still doesn't give you a right to intact violence against them and no that isn't a defense of either its a defense of the law a denouncement and condemnation of mob rule
     
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    I read that there are approximately only 300 Nationalist Socialist (Nazis) in America today.

    The others are just neo-Nazis comparable to what neo-cons are. Neoconservatives are not conservatives but liberals with in the Republican party.
     
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    did Trump specifically tell that guy or the crowd to push the camera man? no he didn't, then its not inciting violence according to the law
    but telling a crowd or individual to punch a Nazi is
     
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    Trump said he would pay the legal fees of his violent supporters, if that is not promoting violence, not sure what is
     
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    Bummer that Trump hasn't held a rally in California since he campaigned here over 3 years ago. Were you are the gathering and subsequent riots in Costa Mesa, San Jose or San Diego? Remember when Trump had to jump over a freeway fence in Burlingame? :laughing:

     
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    Democrats' sad desperation is noted, but I am NOT sad about it.
     
  16. APACHERAT

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    Yeah, I remember watching the footage taken from a news helicopter of candidate Trump scaling the fence.

    You would have thought California would have built a Trump wall to keep Donald Trump from having a rally.

    But last week President Trump did have a fundraiser in Beverly Hills and then had dinner at his golf course in Palos Verdes.

    There are more than a few MAGA areas in the totalitarian hermit kingdom of California.
     
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    You need to stop getting your news from left wing hate sites, the comment you're quoting is BS just like the 'grab them by the kitty' comment is BS. If the left is going to call themselves the highly educated and intellectually elite, then perhaps it's time they started acting like it.

    Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...eo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html#


    News anchors and pundits have repeated lies about Donald Trump and race so often that some of these narratives seem true, even to Americans who embrace the fruits of the president’s policies. The most pernicious and pervasive of these lies is the “Charlottesville Hoax,” the fake-news fabrication that he described the neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Va., in August 2017 as “fine people.”

    Just last week I exposed this falsehood, yet again, when CNN contributor Keith Boykin falsely stated, “When violent people were marching with tiki torches in Charlottesville, the president said they were ‘very fine people.’” When I objected and detailed that Trump’s “fine people on both sides” observation clearly related to those on both sides of the Confederate monument debate, and specifically excluded the violent supremacists, anchor Erin Burnett interjected, “He [Trump] didn’t say it was on the monument debate at all. No, they didn’t even try to use that defense. It’s a good one, but no one’s even tried to use it, so you just used it now.”


    My colleagues seem prepared to dispute our own network’s correct contemporaneous reporting and the very clear transcripts of the now-infamous Trump Tower presser on the tragic events of Charlottesville. Here are the unambiguous actual words of President Trump:


    “Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”


    After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:


    “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
     
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    Well, I could say your an idiot, but what's the fun in stating the obvious, not mention the board's monitors' sensitivity to the obvious. So, instead, I'll quote Ayn Rand: "An attempt to achieve the good by physical force is a monstrous contradiction which negates morality at its root by destroying man’s capacity to recognize the good, i.e., his capacity to value. Force invalidates and paralyzes a man’s judgment, demanding that he act against it, thus rendering him morally impotent. A value which one is forced to accept at the price of surrendering one’s mind, is not a value to anyone; the forcibly mindless can neither judge nor choose nor value. An attempt to achieve the good by force is like an attempt to provide a man with a picture gallery at the price of cutting out his eyes. Values cannot exist (cannot be valued) outside the full context of a man’s life, needs, goals, and knowledge."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/physical_force.html

    And to reinforce: "No advocate of reason can claim the right to force his ideas on others. No advocate of the free mind can claim the right to force the minds of others. No rational society, no co-operation, no agreement, no understanding, no discussion are possible among men who propose to substitute guns for rational persuasion."

    In other words, your fist is not a refutation of an argument, but an admission of your failure to defeat the argument; thereby, giving your opponent the intellectual victory--and who wants to do that with any collectivist, be it a Nazi, or a socialist?

    Now, with that being said, I have to admit, I'm not losing too much sleep over a Nazi getting smacked up-the-side-of-the-head; though it would be a flagrant foul in a debate of ideas, and a significant breach of protocol. Furthermore, you don't need to peremptorily strike a Nazi to smack one. Just ask one what the hell was Jessie Owens all about, and how did they end up losing the war to the mongrel of all mongrels, the Americans? When his Ayran pride raises his fist, be Muhammed Ali and smack and blast a lightning left jab and a devastating right hook to his temple. Debate won; Nazi out cold. Perfection.
     
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    Exact locations are secret until an hour or two before the event. Afterwards Trump immediately leaves California without spending the night. President Obama visited LA dozens of times during his first years in office. This was Trump's 3rd visit in as many years even though he has a home and golf course here. What's up with that? :laughing:
     
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    Very apropos for some with the caliber of your intellect. So, go back to sleep. It suits your character. It's best for the rest.
     
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    Turns out, they are a bunch of pansies. Who knew?

    Oh wait... just about everyone knew.... my bad.
     
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    :yawn:
     
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    Too late. Noticed my error. Reposted to reflect the wittiness of your wisdom. I'm sure it will help you keep your high standards of intellectual thought.
     
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    I was unaware that Trump had a home in the totalitarian state of California.

    Obama only visited California to pick up his money from the Hollywood left.
     

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