Cop who arrested El Chapo's son 'executed' after gunmen shoot him 155 times

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know that I agree with that.

    The cartels in Mexico are at least very predictable: They want money, they want to consolidate control over their market and get rid of competitors, and they want revenge.

    Sometimes completely innocent people get caught up in the violence, but they don't specifically target random innocent people. (Or if they do it's to kidnap them to try to get money)

    Mexican gangs may outdo ISIS in thievery and corruption, but ISIS outdoes Mexican gangs when it comes to violence and rape.
     
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    and they sell products that kill tens of thousands of Americans every year.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least these victims made their own choice to use those products.

    That's not quite as a bad as homicide.
     
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    "Cop who arrested El Chapo's son 'executed' after gunmen shoot him 155 times"

    another victim of America's war on drugs

    time to end the war and stop funding them
     
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    Trump is the only one I hear talking about taking your guns without due process

    would you vote for a guy like that?

    [​IMG]
     
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    No a victim of drug cartels
     
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    Beto O'Rourke talked openly about it and he was just putting voice to widely held democratic beliefs
     
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    which would not exist if not funded by the war on drugs
     
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    I am not voting for him, are you voting for Trump?
     
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    The cartels are fundud by srug users.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Drug_War

    Over 115K deaths so far. The number killed per year doubled between 2017 and 2018.

    I bet its on track to be even worse this year.
     
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    because of the war on drugs.... just like during alcohol prohibition, prohibition is the gateway to crime
     
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    Way too simplistic.

    California legalized marijuana and there is still plenty of crime by cartels. A cop was just killed by 2 illegal cartel members in el dorado county.

    A friend who is a firefighter put out a fire at a "grow house".

    While they were doing this, cartel members went to the fire station, broke into each crew members vehicles and took just their vehicle registration. It was a warning saying they know who they are.

    Now they carry all identifying documents in a small pouch and lock them in the station.
     
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    No people chose crime.. no one forces them into it. And certainly no one fores you into brutality.

    So when you make guns illegal you gonna be complaining about violent gun traffickers?

    Yes you will.
     
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    disagree, prohibition of alcohol created crime, you can deny that, but history shows it to be true

    it takes large demand, normal guns will never be illegal, so demand for machine guns will never be great enough to create the crime in the same numbers

    you take a nice family drinking wine with dinner, arrest them for nothing more then drinking wine with dinner, give them a criminal record, it's the gateway to crime for many
     
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    Don't worry, I'm pretty sure that if the people who did that would cross the border, they would be peace loving people. Border seems to have magical effects.
     
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    1. Heroin and meth isn't wine there is no comparison

    2. Machine guns have been functionally illegal for nearly 80 years.
     
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    Does any south American country have low poverty and low crime? Why is that? Hhhmmm interesting.
     
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    The ones in the best shape have the "whitest" populations, like Uruguay and Argentina.

    probably just a coincidence...
     
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    I do wonder though if Mexico's criminal gangs might turn to something else, something even more nefarious, if that drug business wasn't there.
    Child trafficking, extortion, and kidnapping, for example.

    One could make arguments either way.
     
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    Or they have a lack of socialists.

    Chile is in turmoil today, however Pinochets helicopters brought Chile to near first world status for decades.
    [​IMG]
     
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    They already turned to that.
     
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    never said is was, Marijuana is not as harmful as alcohol, magic mushrooms have benefits to mental health

    why are they considered scheduled one substances and alcohol is not? both have valid medicinal uses, which by the dea's own rules excludes them
     
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    These cartel factions are subsidiaries of the CIA.
     
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