Corona Virus Update

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  1. Richard Franks

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    Here's the latest:
    In the United States, signs of optimism that the spread of the coronavirus was flattening contrasted with rising death tolls, opposing messages about social-distancing orders, and political frustration.

    Here are some significant developments:

    • Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the World Health Organization’s director-general, said countries should unify or risk worsening the pandemic. His comments came after President Trump on Tuesday threatened to withhold funds from the U.N. agency.
    • New York announced 779 new deaths from the virus, its highest single-day toll, though the state’s number of hospitalized patients is down. Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D) acknowledged progress but cautioned, “It’s not a time to get complacent.”
    • A leading forecasting model used by many states and the White House now estimates tens of thousands fewer covid-19 deaths by August. But a separate report to the White House by a panel of medical experts finds that the coronavirus is unlikely to significantly wane with the arrival of summer.
    • Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease official, said Wednesday that “now is not the time to pull back at all” on social distancing; rather, “it’s the time to intensify.” A CNN poll, however, found that almost half of American workers are still regularly leaving home for work.
    • A leading researcher with European Union resigned Wednesday, hours after a 16-hour meeting of E.U. finance ministers failed to reach an emergency relief deal, signaling deep divides within the bloc.
    • Virus-stricken British Prime Minister Boris Johnson began his third day in intensive care where he “remains clinically stable” and “is responding to treatment,” officials said.


    They projected Colorado but Kansas got hit and that my not be the end of it. COVID-19 is expected to hit everywhere and no one is exempt from it. Not even you or I are either. I am pleased we have the best medical staffs and scientists and stay-at-home folks and are all doing their parts to do the best we can and that's all we can do. It will subside eventually and we need to pray and mean it.

    This isn't over yet.
     
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    Who is claiming it’s over ???
     
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    Trump knows he is a citizen? You wanted to know the fantasy from his daily press briefings.

    The fantasy is that mail in voting leads to voter fraud. The fact that he is personally a hypocrite is a bonus.

    The fantasy is the notion that no one could have seen it coming. The fact that his own appointee saw it coming a week before he said it was very much under control is a bonus.

    The fantasy is that the WHO should be blamed or be punished when they reacted much more appropriately than he did. The fact that he contradicted himself within minutes is a bonus.
     
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    It does lead to voter fraud.

    You claim fantasy because Trunk didn’t see the Corona virus pandemic coming ??? Who did ???

    The WHO is complicit. Why did they claim that travel bans weren’t necessary after Trump implemented the travel ban that has saved lives ??? They endorsed the Chinese lie that the Corona virus could not be transferred from human to human in January after Taiwan warned them in December.
     
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    WHO fantasy ?? Please explain why the WHO ignored the warning from Taiwan and perpetuated the Red Chines lies about the corona virus.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/lost-in-beijing-the-story-of-the-who-11586365090?mod=opinion_lead_pos5
     
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    It does work - IF entire nations practice full lock-down.
     
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    Not the WHO, on 1/14 they were telling us nothing to worry about because their Chinese masters told them no human to human spread (a lie), or Dr. Fauci, who on 1/26 said the US threat was minimal.
     
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    Sweden is doing fine without a full lockdown. They are implemented a herd immunity strategy with modifications.
     
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    Exactly. Navarro stated that their could be a pandemic but not if he Corona virus was similar to the SARS outbreak. And that is what our medical experts because of the Red Chinese and WHO lies.
     
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    And days after the Navarro memo Trump enacted the China travel restriction over the objections of Democrats, China and the WHO. China now has similar travel restrictions.
     
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    Actually, no they're not. Look at the nations who are more or less winning the battle (Some Asian countries, New Zealand, Australia), and you'll find they have very strict regulations. That's WHY they're winning the battle.
     
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    Maybe you could be right and we need to hope so. This so-called Coronavirus has been dragging so for so long, there are some of us that won't be able to take it anymore and who can blame them? If we were to re-open businesses and schools and lift restrictions, would we be in chaos? Think about it. Can we afford to create chaos if we were to do what Presidentg Trump wants? What President Trump wants is chaos and cause it. Do we need this? I don't think so. Think about it.
     
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    Did you just reply to yourself?
     
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    Anyone who claims 'Sweden is doing fine' is either unable to read basic data, is pushing an ideological agenda or is just plain stupid (which is basically the same as 2). Sweden is a disaster and their strategy has resulted in hundreds of unnecessary deaths. nations that locked down early and comprehensively have been much more successful. Anyone paying attention knows this, but I suppose some people think that if you repeat a lie often enough someone might believe it.
     
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    Add to those Israel, Canada, Chile, Norway & Czechia. There are numerous others that have been more successful than Sweden, which is currently adding twice as many deaths per day as Australia has in total but with less than half the population.
     
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    Sweden is doing much better than France, Switzerland, Holland, UK, Belgium, Spain, and Italy on a deaths per million of population basis. Australia and New Zealand haven’t been hit yet.
     
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    Using a deaths per million of population they are doing much better than Switzerland, France, UK, Belgium, Holland, Spain, and Italy.
     
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    And doing much worse compared to those countries most similarly positioned to them in terms of when they started showing significant community spread, including their neighbors, Norway.

    The situation in the UK, which also began with a similar strategy as Sweden before they had to switch course, also looked much better at that time than many other places in Europe already in lock-down. But starting later than they should have, they are now reporting among the highest new deaths and total deaths anywhere in the world. Sweden looks to be on the same track.
     
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    The evidence may not be conclusive still, but it is pretty clear. The more proactive your country or state is in terms of taking the necessary social distancing measures before you record significant community spread of the virus, both the less stringent those measures need to be and the less hard hit you will end up. In Europe, its the contrast between Germany and UK; in the US, between CA and NY; and more generally, the contrast between Italy and South Korea.
     
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    All of which are also disasters.

    I stand by every word I wrote. You prove me correct every time you post.
     
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    Like I said, you will just keep repeating yourself no matter what the facts. There are few greater admissions of weakness than the inability to admit that you are wrong.
     
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    Those countries implemented full lockdown.
     
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    Those countries are on full lockdown. Sweden is not. You have proved nothing.

    BTW, daily new cases in Sweden peaked on April 2nd. They are on their way down. But cases kicked up a bit today. We will see if the trend continues.
     
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    Daily new cases peaked on April 2nd. They are on their way down. But cases kicked up a bit today. We will see if the trend continues. Norway new cases peaked on March 27.

    Norway is planning to start up their economy in a couple of weeks. Sweden didn’t shut down but did limit large groups to 50 and spaced out tables in restaurants.

    Why do you conclude that Sweden is on the same track as the UK ??
     
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    They did it too late....but you'd know that if you paid attention. The UK started out with a 'herd immunity' policy until infections spiked. Other nations waited until cases were already rising too fast. Other nations locked down early and it is working. When you start and how strict you are impact directly on deaths....but you know that too.

    Contrary to your lies Australia's new cases have been in decline for almost 2 weeks. And just to remind you, Sweden has more than ten times the number of dead as Australia with about 40% of the population. Other nations that locked down early or strictly are having similarly good results.

    You touted Sweden as a success. It is a failure. You have already been provided with lists of nations that have been successful, but you refuse to acknowledge them because you want to push a particular failed idea and will ignore any facts that challenge you.
     
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