Corona Virus Update

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  1. Monash

    Monash Well-Known Member

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    Yes please. I can't do a survey. At the moment we don't have any COVID where I live.

    We did have it but we initiated the whole lock down/mask wearing/social distancing 'thing' early & got rid of it. There's always the likelihood of new outbreak, but if so we'll just do the 'thing' again pending arrival of the vaccine.
     
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  2. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, not yet. But its coming.

    https://www.aha.org/2020-01-22-updates-and-resources-novel-coronavirus-2019-cov

    California does alot to keep the hospitals properly staffed, but the state is running around 90% full, although we are taking quite a few transfers from other states, some states that don't want to do much care to minimize COVID and other issues, and some in the hospitals are getting resentful of starting to jam up hospitals here while the states that want to party their bars and not take care of their cities, claiming COVID is a "hoax".

    So, where are your "ghost town hospitals" so we know where to see the next 20,000 critically ill care patients that will arrive in the next couple of weeks?
     
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    If you all wear masks and stay home and hide under your bed till the all clear whistle blows you should stay Covid free.
     
  4. Heartburn

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    It isn't Covid that is a hoax, it's the reactions to it that ring a bit phony.
     
  5. ronv

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    ronv, Jul 2, 2020

    As promised.

    No more charts for you. :)

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  6. kreo

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    Masks are not effective in preventing spread of infection.
    Mask only reduce probability of contamination if one person directly talk to each other.
    In fact masks increase concentration of the viruses in closed spaces, because infected people are wearing them on the street and exhale viruses into the masks.
    When mask loaded with viruses enters the store it infects everything around
     
  7. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This post bears no resemblance to science.
     
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  8. kreo

    kreo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, there is absolutely no political science in my post, just simple physics.
     
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  9. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah doctors and nurses around the world have been wearing masks to prevent disease spread for over a 100 years just so that in the year 2020, they could politicise covid.
     
  10. kreo

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    That is where fallacy is coming from.
    Masks protect perfectly only from bacteria and may be very large flue virus.

    The size of the mask fiber gaps is ~ 20-μm = 0.02 mm
    Coronavirus ~ 100 nm = 0.0001 mm

    0.02 / 0.0001 = 200
    Typical mask is 1 mm at most.
    Now imagine that you are at a football field and you have to walk through the goals posts that are about 200 yards apart.
    Even though you will encounter about 50 overlapping goals posts you are not going to have any problem to cross the whole filed.

    The same thing with a virus. When infected person inhales it coroniviruses they are go through mask and appears on the surface.
    Infected mask will infect everyone in the store
     
  11. ronv

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    There is you're problem.
    A football field is only 53 yards wide. :)
     
  12. kreo

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    You have got it!
     
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    This is wrong. The virus vary rarely travels alone. It moves in clumps inside droplets of spittle. Indeed if you ingested a few individual virus it is highly unlikely it would take hold and infect you.
     
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    If something that is 100%, it's guaranteed. Anything else probably isn't. I don't think any vaccines would be 100% but you never can tell.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to comprehend.
     
  16. truth and justice

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    Because it doesn't fit their agenda.
     
  17. kreo

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    Yea, virus does not travel alone it travels with droplet that pushed through the mask in every breath.
    Yes sincethe ingestion of few viruses does not cause the disease there absolutely no point to wear masks.
    Social distancing is more then enough.
     
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    There is no absolutely no need to have 100%.
    70% is more then enough to create herd immunity
     
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    nac can help to combat the virus.
     
  20. kreo

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    Indeed it is very hard to comprehend how some people cannot differentiate two objects when one object is 200 times greater in size.
    It looks like an ultimate brainwash.
     
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    Yes I think that's you. Otherwise you would do some research and find out you are wrong, wrong, wrong.
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    Filtration Performance of FDA-Cleared Surgical Masks (nih.gov)
     
  22. Curious Always

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    You must be wearing your mask wrong. Every time I take off my mask, there is moisture. This indicates that instead of flying around in the air, the droplets coming from my mouth were stopped by the mask.

    I'm surprised you don't get the same results. Are you covering your mouth AND nose?
     
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    So you must agree surgical masks help.
     
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    I bet you just fixed it.
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