Could Boris Johnson be the UK's last prime minister?

If you are in Britain, you have to be careful what you say or else you will be arrested. Say something negative about the muslim immigrants....I dare you.

 

The white supremacy on this thread makes me sick! We are all the same! Look at professional sports, nobel prize winning scientists, IQ scores, homicide rates, unemployment figures, mental illness. There is no difference between races. We are all exactly the same, whether it be personality, behavior, intelligence, and fast twitch muscle fibers. 50 Cent is the same as Bill Gates who is the same as Ghandi and Bin Laden. Stop Brexit! Stop the white supremacy now!!

 

Brexit now is white supremacism?
Man, you can’t make these thing up!

 

You didn't pic up the sarcasm? It was laid on pretty thick.

The left has cried wolf on racism so many times they are now moving to "white supremacy."

 

Ohhh.
Ok.
Sorry, it’s getting pretty late here. I do agree with you.

 

What the hell?! Do you actually believe this spew? NO, ALL RACES ARE NOT THE SAME. There are differences that are scientifically provable. How many black athletes do you see during the winter Olympics compared to the summer Olympics? Tay-sachs disease affects what ethnicity? Or how about sickle cell anemia? Did you know that the eskimos (for a lack of a better name) can consume rotten meat and not get sick? Blacks have a much higher chance to get strokes and heart attacks. I can go on and on. Again, WE HUMANS ARE NOT ALL THE SAME.

Ah crap...you need to add the "rolls eyes" emoji or something with that sarcasm. Good one....you got me.

 

But it was the vote of a far larger section of the British population. The Good Friday agreement can be accommodated within Brexit, people are fear mongering. And in case you're wondering I voted Remain.

 

Or you could just write crap like you did. Who has linked Brexit with white supremacy? But there was definitely racism involved with some Brexit voters, some of my Facebook "friends" demonstrated that racism

 

The campaign promise of the leave party was full control of the borders. That is not possible if the Good Friday agreement is to be accomodated

 

I am interested in what you think the practical reality would be in order to accommodate the Belfast?Good Friday Agreement (currently being misnamed as the 'backstop') within Brexit.
Post Brexit there would be the EU over there, and the UK over the other side.
If there is no border it means no Brexit because there would be no line of demarcation between two different systems, if there is a border if only because of challenging transgressions it would be a controlled and enforced one, hence a direct clash with the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement which has comments regarding the removal of security arrangements. Add in the common travel area which is a concept first introduced in 1923, and add in to that the part of the Good Friday Agreement which allows citizens of Northern Ireland to identify as both British and Irish.
You might even want to weigh up the history of the recent troubles, and the warnings from the head of the Police Service of Northern Ireland.
This is all before you get to the physical topography which does not have a convenient line of demarcation like the English Channel to help things along.
You seem to be saying that the brexit vote holds sway because it was from a 'far larger section of the British population, however legally it had the status of an advisory referendum, whereas the GFA referendum was to ratify an International Treaty. At the very best the two referenda cancel each other out.
I have outlined some of the issues above, not as project fear, not even as part of an hysterical response, but as my attempt to put a reasoned position.
I think that brexit and the GFA are unreconcilable and the question is which one is going to be abandoned.

 

Brexit was mainly over immigration. Controlling immigration is considered racism. The left's now replacing racism with white supremacy.

 

The racism exhibited by some of my facebook friends was regarding immigrants from outside the EU which had nothing to do with the EU. They were convinced by the likes of Farage that immigrants from outside the EU were invading the UK and they blamed the EU for it:


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-ukip-breaking-point-poster-queue-of-migrants

The UK had complete control on how many non-EU migrants can come over and live in the UK. The UK agreed to 20,000 over four years from 2016 to 2020 and is failing to even reach those figures.

Notice the similarities: Nazi Germany campaign

 

What is your limit for EU and Non EU immigration? A number please.

 

The leave party, not Boris Johnson and the Tories, we can renegotiate the GFA with the South as part of a Brexit settlement.

 

If it comes to a choice then GFA, NI is 1.5 million people, the rest of Britain 60 million, we can renegotiate a new agreement with the South.

 

It has come to a choice, no if's about it.
This new agreement with the south you speak of, what will it contain?

 

To be decided? Until we know the final form of Brexit this is all speculation but I'm sure we can find some compromise.

 

I suppose you are talking about the killing of Jo Cox and both threats to kill other MP's as well as discovered plots to do same, possibly as well as the terrorism at Finsbury Park including, possibly the first intention to kill Corbyn. Possibly the increase in far right extremism in England? Possibly that Brexit is an English thing not a UK thing. Possibly that the English Nationalism of the Brexiters means the majority of the Tories find the idea of the end of the Union, a United Ireland and Independent Scotland a price worth paying to get Brexit.

Brexit is English Nationalism. You seem to believe it is white Nationalism. I say that because you are the only person who has suggested that even if you claim it was a joke. You could well be right. I am more interested in what the Tories are going to achieve that is worth it to them to break up the Union and/or the possibility of renewed fighting in Ireland. Renewed 'troubles' is something which word form the US is would result in Congress saying No to an economic deal with the US - something Brexiters are depending on even though this will in no way make up for the loss of a No Deal Brexit. The Brexit leaders have encourage hatred of the other among the masses they have been manipulating but the real question is what are they hoping to gain.

 

Looks exceedingly unlikely. Ireland has said there will be no renegotiation.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...dkar-irish-backstop-hard-border-a9052516.html

As I said above the majority of Tories according to polls would prefer the break up of the UK to not getting Brexit. That would mean a United Ireland which Boris does not seem to have any problem with and a vote on which is gaining strong ground in N Ireland with apparently some Unionists deciding also this is the best outcome. However you have the DUP who are the people holding the Government in place who will not think of it. That is where you are both likely to have a General Election here and renewed 'troubles' in Northern Ireland. Brexit is not going to give anything to the majority of the English masses who voted for it. It will almost certainly result in an increase in neo liberalism (austerity) which is on its last legs and cannot provide for the people whether in England, the US or the EU. People should be looking at the motivation for the elites to do this.

 

They say it now, when they see their economy about to implode they might change their tune. Boris is a Unionist and has been just as supportive of the Union as his predecessors. General Election, maybe? Renewed Troubles? Probably but not very much, the Republican dissidents are on the ropes.

 

No, that is just what he is saying now due to the pressure on him to say it. A No Deal Brexit means the Break up of the UK. No deal Brexiters will give up the Union as long as they get Brexit. It appears to be the only thing that matters to them. They question is why.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...87/ruth-davidson-tells-tory-members-take-long

What on earth are you meaning by this? Polls show a majority of people in Northern Ireland would support a vote on Union if there is Brexit. Polls show a larger majority in favour if there is a No Deal Brexit and a majority in favour of staying in the UK only if there is no Brexit.

 

Good luck with finding a compromise.
What would your starting point be?

 

Take it or leave it.

I can't see what Ireland has to offer apart from some tough beef and murderous Fenians. If push comes to shove we can get the meat from the Argentine and the religious nutcases from within the Islamic community.

It was nice of the EU to tell the Irish that they mattered, but surely the Micks had the mother wit notice that their masters in Brussels were laughing as they said so.

 

I am not sure that Reasonablerob meant that 'compromise' was the same as 'take it or leave it'.

The rest of your post is speculation which I disagree with.

 

Tough.

Ireland has nothing to offer so there isn't anything to negotiate.

Only 79 days to go.