Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?

I am almost certain that it was Tom Harper in his book "Life After Death" who stated that some of the highest IQ scores ever recorded happened during some of the testing of LSD during the '60's.

This makes me wonder if some aspects of some drug induced trips.... could in fact be the consciousness of the experiencer actually going through different higher dimensions?


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers04.html

The Trigger of Hallucinogenic Drugs: Larry Hagman's Near-Death Experiences

 

But.... if it is a near death experiencer that we are talking about that occurred during a heart attack where the experiencer flatlined...… an increase in IQ is just about the last thing that we would expect to happen?!

Many people who flat-lined who remember some aspects of an NDE seem to have a very low incidence of brain damage as would have been expected?!

 

I am right now again reading a post by AboveAlpha that sure seems to correspond well with what some near death experiencers have been shown while they are in the out of the body state?

Just as I feel strongly that Chapter 13 of "Stephen Hawking's Universe" should be seriously looked at by us theists.....(it was titled The Anthropic Principle and introduced me to the idea of The Cyclic Model)......so also we should be looking at this idea as well........

It is post #694... here.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/science/370710-big-bang-ushers-heavens-earth-70.html

Big Bang ushers in the heavens and the earth.....?

 

Gorn Captain...… AboveAlpha is one of the seventy percent of near death experiences......… who had a major brush with death....... but cannot remember it. Based on the post by AA that I just quoted....... does it seem to you that AA had any DECREASE in IQ?

This is a point that I am beginning to elaborate on in a discussion on the NDE of Gary Plumbley:

 

From 1988 to 1990 I took fairly high levels of a nutritional product. I eventually figured out that it increased my level of norephedrine too much. I became somewhat psychic for a while there.

 

I just got back an exceptional comment on this topic from an NDEr.

Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.:

www.thomastwin.com/

 

I can't deny this as a possibility......
but all of us need to keep in mind that NDE accounts do seem to hold a possible key to
the attainment of peace between the three major Abrahamic religions........

... which.......... is such an important goal that even Agnostics and Atheists should take at least some time.....
to research this further........

(For the beginning of the explanation for this... jump to post #20 in the following thread....).....


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...d-son-good-prophet-prophet-muhammad-pbuh.html

I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!


3. The Prophet Muhammad's Journey to Heaven

http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html

 

It doesn't disprove life after death either. Nor does it prove that ketamine was an active ingredient in the NDE. Oh look, I can pump your head full of drugs and make you see lights so that must be what a NDE is.
Oh look, I can drop some acid or eat a mushroom and see unicorns so that means NDEs aren't real.
Being able to replicate one aspect of some NDEs is not a duplication or a recreation of an NDE.

 

Well if you had done your Jihad correctly, you wouldn't be in a void alone. You'd have 72 virgins.

 

Psychotics and those on certain strong drugs also have convincing life experiences and hear and see god and other things so what if someone whose dying saw things they are aquainted with now you want to impress me raise babies to adulthood without any knowledge of religion and then induce death over and over until they have a NDE and chronicle this enough for a base study to be meaningful. See oxygen is reduced to the mind and odd things happen that is a physical cause of NDE until proven otherwise to most rational people. Religious people are not rational IMHO.

 

What is experienced by blind people who have a brush with death though
indicates that the out of the body experience state of mind is tapping into
something greater than a mere halucination.

http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence/people-born-blind-can-see-during-nde.html


People Born Blind Can See During a Near-Death Experience

By Kevin Williams

 

The key to a world where the most feeble resident of Jerusalem........
being comparable to King David.......

and a world where the least Christian is more well informed than
John the Baptist...... is the realization that G-d the Father and
G-d the Mother the Holy Spirit and the Messiah...... are in more trouble than we humans are......

because they actually care so much about us... that they truly are afflicted......
in ALL of our affliction........

 

This has nothing to do with your OP, I do apologize for that. I was just wanting your thoughts on this. Somebody asked if I could at least give an example of the possibility of God. This is what I thought of.

In order to determine a design/creation, it requires intelligence. Thus the design/creation is obviously of intelligence. You cannot reverse engineer a vehicle without intelligence, just as the vehicle cannot be created without intelligence. This is applicable in everything you can think of, including earth and mankind. They both require and are of intelligence (God).

Just wanted your thoughts on this, because I cannot think of anything that would contradict this. This is applicable with everything, so why not earth, and mankind as well?

 

Your analogy of reverse engineering is perfect........
I will keep that phrase in mind if I ever try to update this
blog that I wrote......

www.CarbonBias.BlogSpot.ca/


or start another discussion or poll like.......



Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?

...........................

Actually your comment is perfectly on topic......
that is pretty much exactly what I was trying to get at......


One of the probable implications of reverse engineering to eleven or twenty six dimensions of space - time........
was covered in Chapter 13 of Stephen Hawking's Universe.....
that chapter was titled.... The Anthropic Principle.......

and Dr. Hawking postulated an essentially infinite number of Big Bang type events going back to eternity in the past...... far, far, far, far far more than merely 13.72 billion years in the past.........
basically eternity in the past.......

How could all of that taken place... by pure random chance??????

Chaim Henry Tejman M. D. has written much on the behavior of fundamental energy...... or nearly fundamental energy.........

Fundamental energy should form something like circuitry........ something like A. I. ...... except........ it was the original "I think therefore I AM!"

G-D evolved......
Adam and Eve were created... and before them.... Cherubs... Seraphim and ArchAngels...... and Elohim..... and Watchers....and aliens............ not necessarily in that order..... (Actually the Elohim would come first... and the Word / Logos is apparently the oldest......)......

 

Interesting.......
technically many non-Muslims get to be considered honorary Muslims..... after they are deceased.....
King David, King Solomon, Moses and King Cyrus are four examples....... so there is some hope for us yet!

 

Could G-d the Mother = the Holy Spirit / the Holy Ghost?

When Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stated that the church..... was better off with The Comforter / the Holy Spirit........rather than to still have Yeshua - Jesus still with them........ that idea has pretty serious possible implications.

is G-d the Holy Spirit greater than G-d the Son??????

I think so.... yes!

 

God, the Spirit and Jesus are as one.

 

True..... but that would not rule out the possibility that perhaps the Ancient of Days the Father and
perhaps the Ancient of Days the Mother / The Holy Spirit / The Holy Ghost.... may have existed, been intelligent and
thinking and moving around and working for some time before The Word / Logos and the other Elohim/ The Seven Spirits of G-d were
given birth to???

One near death experiencer reported being shown fourteen Elohim, seven male and seven female....... I can't help but wonder if she had been shown the Seven Spirits of G-d????


Revelation 1:4

"John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace beunto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;"

 

There is certainly no denying the fact that we all need money to survive!

That is false....and it is how Satan enslaves everyone.

 

Could G-d the Mother = the Holy Spirit / the Holy Ghost?

Jesus said, "Blasphemy against the Father and the Son will be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will NOT be forgiven, in this life, or the next."

In other words, DON'T TALK BAD ABOUT MY MOM!

 

I agree!

I do believe that "don't talk bad about my mom" is a level of hidden meaning in the verse you refer to...... and I think is implied by the verses about The Comforter.

 

I agree that a cashless society is possible....... but difficult for us to shift over to rapidly.

I believe we would need a massive outpouring of the Holy Spirit before a cashless society could work properly.

 

No money in heaven...but to get there, humanity must elevate to enlightenment.

 

I am encouraged by the prediction that the being of light of NDE fame wishes to
lead humanity into a utopian world by the year 2185.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

 

I can understand why you would think this way but I know several near death experiencers
through Facebook groups.......
and they are amazingly free from greed.......