Could Lucifer be the name of the white horse of Revelation.

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  1. DennisTate

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    From what I have read.... I consider this to be an excellent theory!

    His musical talent also played a huge role in his ability to sway people over to his way of thinking and viewing
    reality.............

    ... he seems to have managed to convince his one third of the angels to become unhappy.... unthankful......angry.......
    envious of Adam........ and Eve......... and their ability to have children and grandchildren.......
     
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    I think that it is important to differentiate between Lucifer and Azazel......
    it seems that Azazel feel centuries after the fall of Adam and Eve.....
    whereas Lucifer fell perhaps thousands of years... maybe even millions of years
    before the fall of Adam and Eve.


    Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...
     
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    Now.... if Lilith, the first wife of Adam looked a lot like Eve........
    ......
    and if Lucifer could look like Pegasus......

    Humnnnnnnnnn......


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur
     
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    Lucifer is not a name. It means bringer of light in Latin. It's use to refer to Satan is based on his nickname the "Morning Star". Even Jesus could be referred to as Lucifer in the context of him being the "Light of the World".
     
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    Or.... is the Devil only acting like he loves darkness?

    Is he really like Stanley Milgram Ph. D. and does he actually dislike his most obedient followers?
     
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    White horse is the Third Temple. Of course, the Third Temple is in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel, and not according to the projects of the Sanhedrin. When this "white horse" appears, that is, the Temple, the Divine Judgment will begin over Christians.

    ezekiels_temple.png

    Most Christians do not like the idea of building the Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. The popular version is that the "white horse" is the antichrist. In general, Christians prefer not to think with their own mind, and even more so, do not trust the Spirit that reveals the Holy Scripture, but prefer to rely on their pastors, just like in ancient Judea, Jews listened to their rabbis, not Jesus Christ. History will repeat, only now Jesus Christ will be crucified by Christians. However, He Himself can no longer be crucified, so Christians will crucify Jesus Christ within themselves, pushing inside their hearts the false image preached in their denomination.

    White means God's. A horse is an image of strength. God's power will shake the world and wake up sleeping Christians. This is exactly what will happen when the construction of the Third Temple begins in the Judean Desert.

    And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. (Revelation 19:11)

    Is this really about Lucifer?

    When I have bent Judah for me, filled the bow with Ephraim, and raised up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece, and made thee as the sword of a mighty man. (Zechariah 9:13)
     
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    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    In a million years I could never have predicted a reply quite like this!!!!!

    This is amazing....... in his book "The Torch and the Sword" Rick Joyner recounts being shown that
    a white horse..... has something to do with leading a Movement............

    and yes...... attempting to get Christians to support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple so that Zechariah 14 can be fulfilled....... is indeed a Movement?!


    I so thank you for this surprising...... and kind of shocking reply Aryeh B.!!!!!

    I began this discussion on April 14, 2009.

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/cvfr/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2840&p=14660#p14660

    Should Jews have support to build their Third Temple?


    Should Christians support the right of Jews to rebuild their Third Temple?
    Total votes: 13

    Yes, I believe that Jewish freedom to offer sacrifices even in the Messianic era fits with scripture.
    10(77%)

    No, I believe this would cause a Middle Eastern war.
    1(8%)

    No, I believe that this will set the stage for the anti-Christ.
    2(15%)
     
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    It seems to me that these results are not representative. Sociology uses other methods, it is necessary to poll opinions not on Internet forums.
     
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    White horse - the implementation of the Third Temple. Red horse - religious disputes in the denominations of Christianity. The black horse is the hunger of the Word of God, a misunderstanding of the Scriptures, but the oil and wine will be many (manifestations of the Holy Spirit and joy at the sight of all kinds of miracles). A pale horse is pogroms, inter-confessional, interreligious, inter-ethnic enmity, which used to doze before, but now it will break out.

    All this will begin when the construction of Ezekiel's Temple begins.
     
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    True... that poll was posed on the Canadian Christian Heritage political party forum......
    and CHP members tend to believe in freedom of religion for the Jewish people.... more than
    just about any other group.

    If you click on this link you can see what all other topics were began there:

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/cvfr/canada-f1/
     
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    Could.... .the Satan...... who wrestled with near death experiencer Bob Jones.......
    in the final moments of his life..............
    been acting evil.........???????????

    Could the Satan...... who was wrestling with near death experiencer and Prophet Bob Jones
    in the final hours of his life..........
    respected him...... as one of the best people to have ever lived......????????????


    Could the Satan... .who wrestled with Bob...... have admired him for his amazing courage?????!

    Something he did have a problem with back in 1975..... even Messiah Yeshua - Jesus had to admit that.......
     
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    Wow!!!!!!! You have some serious insight going there Sir!!!!!!

    And I must quote you from another discussion........


    Out of Russia comes hope, Edgar Cayce and Bob Jones

    Sir...... I think that you have a prophetic gift.........
    and I think that you are correct........ the metaphorical Yom Kippur goat........
    might just so mess up Christianity..... that it becomes un-recognizable..............

    On that note you will wish to read posts #1, 2, 5 and 6...........

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tate4centralnova/my-correspondence-with-rabbi-t383.html#.VsDYdsf8iOw


    Aryeh B........ the full fledged Cyrus type of Isaiah 45..... will be perceived as the anti- Jesus by a significant percentage of Christians..........


    Sandra Johnston:
    https://www.sandrakjohnston.com/books

    As I live..... when I am finished with "Christianity / churchianity"....... you may not recognize it Sir!




    My Rosh ha Shanah apology to you all
     
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    Interesting.....
    I have wondered if there could be, (assuming M-Theory with eleven dimensions)....... one Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father composed of the totally fundamental energy of the universe / multiverse........

    then perhaps a YHWH the Mother the Holy Spirit composed of tenth dimensional energy / The Divine Feminine...... and then fourteen Elohim of Genesis chapter one.......
    who may be composed of the energy of ninth dimensional space time???????


    I forget who it was but one gifted Christian was shown the Holy Spirit stepping inside the Father.... and then Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stepping inside both the Father and the Holy Spirit???????????????????

    All of this is far, far, far above my Security Clearance Level???????
     
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    Did you ever hear the account of his second near death experience by Rabbi Alon Anava?

    He was shown a huge angel with massive wings and feet like an eagle..... and this angel
    caused darkness for fifteen days.....
    and this angel shouted..... "There is only HaShem!!!!!!!"

    I could be wrong... I often am.....
    but I wondered if this could be a former Covering Cherub who had repented of temporarily falling into idolization of SELF....... or "I" which is repeated several times in Isaiah chapter fourteen and Ezekiel chapter twenty eight?????
     
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    Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus stated emphatically that he was doing zero miracles himself but instead that the Father was doing the miracles.......

    then shortly before his death he stated that his disciples were far, far, far, far, far better off with the guidance of the Holy Spirit than to have him, himself there leading them and teaching them......

    so it seems that Rabbi Jesus / Yeshua considered himself to be the least of the Trinity....... IF..... there is some validity to the idea of a Trinity??????
     
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    This "Book of Revelation" is not worth reading.
    It is like a heap of spam - written by a de-ranged person under drugs.
    It should never have become part of the Bible.
     
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    Thank you for expressing your opinion on this topic with boldness......



    .... I am biased toward near death experience accounts adding clarity to the entire Bible... even the Book of Revelation......
     
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    I woke up this morning with a rather strange idea on my mind......
    "Could the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, (Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - Issa, (peace be upon Him) be being DELAYED
    until "Azazel" is fully ready to ATTEND THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB???????????

    A fascinating story of a guest being invited to the marriage of THE KING begins around the one hour and thirty minute mark in this
    video by near death experiencer and former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava that I believe has great hidden meaning for our time period......





    "My Life After Death Experience" with Alon Anava
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    Oct 5, 2014



    Why is the name "Azazel" in Leviticus 16 verse ten in the RSV?




     
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