COVID-19: Democratic Voters Support Harsh Measures Against Unvaccinated

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    I found this report fairly disturbing and I hope most of the Democrats that visit this site disagree with the majority of the democrats on this report. What say you?

    Most disturbing part of this report.

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    – Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications. Only 27% of all voters – including just 14% of Republicans and 18% of unaffiliated voters – favor criminal punishment of vaccine critics.
     
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    1st off, 48% isn't a majority.

    2nd, this isn't about handling the unvaxxed.. it's about punishing anti-vax propagandists.

    The way to handle those people is to take away their platform.. suspend their social media.. if they do it on tv/radio, I believe there could be FCC violations.

    When you ask a question allowing fine OR imprisonment, which of those 2 do you really think the majority of yes votes are for?
     
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    And, it's 48% of Democrat voters. If you included all democratic voters then the number would be much larger as that would include Republican, Independent and 3rd party voters as they all participate in the democratic process.

    Now to the meat of the topic

    Once all facts are revealed including the efficacy of natural immunity post-covid
    the discussion on co-morbidities and their impact
    the true facts on deaths due to Covid.
    Force the media to report ALL FACTS, not those put forth by the DNC

    All of the above and more needs to be told as well as the origin of Covid

    Then, let Democrat voters see if they have a change of heart with respect to tyranny
     
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    The sad part is you literally condoning 48% at all. Neither should be an option as being vaxxed does not prevent you from catching or transmitting the virus.

    And again, the vast majority of people who are against mandates, are NOT antivax. Being skeptical of pharma is as healthy as a rainy day as they literally do not have your health as a number one priority. Just look at what Pfizer did with Viox or J&J with talcum powder (or the billions of other fines for fraudulent practices) . As long as they sell enough to cover their losses, you are mere capital to them.
     
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    Democrats believe the world runs like their plantation model. Off to the gulags if you don't subscribe. This is pretty much what so many of us here have said over the years about democrats.
     
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    Anyone who wants to ban asking questions or not showing support is in conflict with the idea of a free nation and flies in the face of science itself. What we know today might be wrong tomorrow. That's what asking questions and seeking the truth gets us sometimes. Nothing should be off limits in that regard. Furthermore, you use that opportunity to show people the facts if they're wrong. If you hide that behind fear of punishment then you're interest isn't in truth but control and anyone looking to control should absolutely be questioned and face push back.
     
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    I agree. Fauci should be jailed for his continued fake vax claims and Biden should be impeached for unconstitutional mandates the SCOTUS just slapped him in the face for. Along with everyone who ignores that fact that vaccinated individuals are 20 times more likely to be reinfected and 13 times more likely to be hospitalized than unvaccinated who already had Covid with its 98.9% survival rate.

    Along with everyone who claims a Covid shot that doesn't stop you from getting Covid, does stop you from spreading Covid, that needs boosters every 6 months to maintain your vaccination status, is a vaccination.

    When its nothing more than gene therapy at best.
     
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    I'm now 94% convinced you didnt read your own source... you just saw the words "democrats" and "vaccine" and just let fly...

    Pretty typical.. I'm used to it...
     
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    Simply rebutt versus posting nonsensical diatribe would yah. Questioning the integrity of the people pushing the vax, considering how wrong they have been from day one, should not be made illegal. Remember the good ole days when the Democrats were saying "You get the jab, you won't get the virus"? The tune has changed drastically, nearly by the hour your the narrative. Democrats are still saying this is NOT an experimental vaccine, which is insanely wrong, yet they want to punish people for NOT wanting to take an experimental drug.

    ETA Not
     
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    So free speech is only for speech you agree with? Only those promoting a pharma product that is producing inferior results, unknown long term effects, and a "use at your own risk" disclaimer get a soapbox?

    Those promoting a healthy diet and exercise get the duct tape and a fine?
     
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    What do you think about idiots that suggested drinking chemical solutions and shining lights thru the skin
     
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    Who did that? Oh yeah, the fallacy that said Trump said to drink bleach or inject it? Still riding that lie are we? But hey, don't let a good lie get in the way of trolling.

    It's an old technique that is literally being used today in various cancer treatments.

    Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?
     
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    Pretty sure it said "likely Democratic voters" and then it said "Republican" not likely. Seems shady
     
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    True, but 55% is a majority:

    – Fifty-eight percent (58%) of voters would oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine. However, 55% of Democratic voters would support such a proposal, compared to just 19% of Republicans and 25% of unaffiliated voters.

    Not surprising given that 65% of Democrats have a favorable view of Socialism:
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/357755/socialism-capitalism-ratings-unchanged.aspx


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    The poll is about both, and the 48% of Democrats that Bearack finds most disturbing are the percentage of Democrats who think the federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals for exercising their First Amendment rights.

    I can't imagine what those FCC violations would be, and as far as the people who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications, I would argue that the way to handle those people is to 1) research the validity of their claims and 2) research the claims they are questioning and 3) decide for yourself which is accurate.
     
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    We told you they were Authoritarians wannabes. Here is just more proof.
     
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    You mean idiots like Pelosi that said Trump told her to inject her lungs with Lysol?
    I think its a great way to rid ourselves of the ignorant so they don't breed and have more like them.
    Seems to me it was only the left claiming Trump told them to drink disinfectant.
    How about you? Did Trump tell you to drink disinfectant?
     
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    Wannabes?

    I never told anyone that. :lol:
     
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    Wow, there are some Americans that think this way? Disgusting.
     
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    Goda** depressing that this needs to even be said.
     
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    I am not in favor of overly restricting free speech, but many outlets where people today exercise their free speech are companies that are also free to impose their conditions on the use of their services. All businesses do that, by the way.

    It's very frustrating having to deal with a bunch of misinformed, paranoid people who feed off each other's nonsense and are prolonging the pandemic and the severity of it by their actions.
    And unfortunately, they also kill others who don't subscribe to their notions.

    Intelligent people have always taken sensible precautions with masks and avoiding places that facilitate infection without whining about it.

    Personally, I am in favor of requiring a vaccine to participate in events and places where the unvaccinated could hurt others if they were asymptomatic and uncaring about harming others, like the tennis player that was deported from Australia.
    As Macron said, make it a pain in the ass to remain unvaccinated and expect to participate in restricted events and places.
    That way, the anti vaxers are free to carry on denying the science and wallowing in paranoid misinformation but not free to infect others with their selfish attitude.
    I'm sure they'll whine about that as well, but after a while, it's just more white noise. If it wasn't that, they'd be whining about something else.

    In any case, the grim reaper may render them moot, since deaths from the omicron variant are set to increase among the unvaccinated.

    https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...id-19-deaths-08f8db29985b992d5ef98ccfa1459eb7
     
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    Then we can agree that the thread title simply doesn't match the part of the poll he was referring to... sort of a bait and switch....

    Anybody who still thinks the First Amendment is a license to say absolutely anything they want in any forum simply is deluding themselves.. Same for the Second Amendment.....

    If the forum they are using feels what is being said violates their policies, they have the right to impose penalties, including post deletions or suspensions..

    Here's more on what the FCC is capable of (I think it's interesting this was last updated 1/8/21..... hmmm)

    https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guide...its broadcasting false,"public harm" if aired.
     
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    Yeah, the OP is misleading. 48% is not a majority and you don't know it's a minority until you take the opinions of Independents and and Republicans.
     
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    No, he didn't say to drink or inject it, he asked the question might that be a possible cure. That's all his minions needed to form a line and start trying it out. That was at the same time he asked if maybe a light thru the skin would work. Trump knows how to 'double talk'. He never tells his people what to do, all he has to do is suggest it and they can't wait to please him.
     
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    Funny thing is that only the Democrats took it out of context as everyone else knew exactly that he was refering to the discussion with the Doctor of UV light being used to treat COVID as a possible solution.

    At no point did any rational Republican or Independent ever surmise that he was talking about bleach or Lysol as the disinfectant, considering there was about a 4 minutes discussion before the CNN edit that clearly showed the dialog of UV being used to disinfect blood..
     
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    Reading is fundamental! It's not what is said here lol
     
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