Critical Race Theory is Destroying the Workplace

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  1. LangleyMan

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    It's a Marxist construct of how one race subjects another. Which race is on top doesn't matter to the analysis. CRT has been applied to Latinos and Asians.

    Collective production doesn't work. Marxism is nonsense.

    As someone who spent decades addressing overt and systemic racism with students, and how basic economics in a capitalist society works to undermine racism, it's disappointing to see rightwing extremists use CRT to distract attention from efforts to root out systemic racism.
    I'm talking about systemic racism.
    We do have a capitalist economic system. It's distorted by the influence of money, but it's still a market economy.
    Not the CRT ideology, just racists who hide behind it.

    We're bogged down in a fight between racists using CRT on both sides.

    Teachers should fight back by pointing out what they teach about racism, overt and systemic, They don't teach Marxist CRT claptrap, nor do they ignore systemic racism that robs victims of their chance to succeed in life.
     
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    We're not solely responsible for their plight, nor would their problems be totally remedied, or perhaps even significantly solved, by us cleaning up our act.
    We can't be a "lifeboat" location for many millions of people. We can't even be a significant help to them if our own society is in disarray because of immigrants crashing our border.
     
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    We don't know what effect cleaning up the USA's act would have, or how long it would take. The point is, until the USA does clean up its act, it better get used to dealing with the problems it has helped create.
    Sure you can. You have been. The USA is built on millions of people seeking a lifeboat location.
    Immigrants crashing the border are an insignificant contributor to the USA's growing social and economic disarray, which is mostly caused by the same kinds of evil policies that have turned most Latin American countries into $#!+-holes that people are fleeing for the USA lifeboat.
     
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    Aristotle is head and shoulders above these three.
    An obvious choice.
    All OK, but there are others who may be at least as deserving, like Kepler, Galileo or Da Vinci.
    OK.
    Darwin is the obvious standout.
    Lots of other possible choices here.
    I wouldn't call the monstrous crimes of European imperial powers in other parts of the world "minor peccadilloes," but they were certainly no worse than the crimes the powerful of other continents have also routinely committed since time immemorial. Genghis Khan, for example, is the only person known to have killed so many people in such a short period of time that he actually reduced the total population of the world.
     
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    Precisely. Western civilization is subject to all the ills of other civilizations. But its accomplishments greatly outstrip them all.
     
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    Correct, but how is that RACIST?
     
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    how is it not racist?
     
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    Why do I have to prove a negative?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you can believe whatever you want, and we are free to agree or disagree with you

    that was obvious racism, if you can't see it, I can't help you
     
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    Race based stupidity is not racism.
     
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    that was racism, the judge showed his racial bias as clear as day
     
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    It's not racist unless the parents specifically linked the crime and the threat to their child of future such crimes to the perpetrators' race.

    GET IT???
     
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    That's certainly true in the sense that Western science and philosophy are what have enabled modern civilization to exist. However, "Western" civilization is not exclusively European. Our cultural heritage also comes in large measure from ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, Israel, Persia, etc., as well as from modern North America. Many of the ancient Greek philosophers, mathematicians, artists, etc. that built the intellectual foundations of European civilization actually lived in Asia, in what is now Turkey. Euclid apparently wrote the Elements in Egypt, though he may have been born a Greek. Until Rome invaded it and burned the library at Alexandria, the world's center of learning was universally acknowledged to be in Egypt.
     
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    Turkey and Egypt were Greek since the time of Alexander the Great. Cleopatra was Greek. Persia was also hellenized by Alexander. By the time Rome got around to invading Egypt, Athens was the universally acknowledged center of learning.

    I care little for the addresses of the heroes of Western Civilization though. Why are you trying to tear down the accomplishments of Europeans?
     
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    they did, the child had fears because of the armed attack, and the judge attacked them for their child's fears - it was definitely racially motivated

    it would be racist if a little black child feared whites after 2 white criminals did that to them, and then the judge slammed the black family for the childs fears and gave the perp probation as well

    in both cases the perps should be the ones scolded, not the parents

    GET IT???
     
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    You mean the parents told their child that the perps' race was cause for concern? Then that was definitely racist.
    What was? The crime, the parents' handling of it with their child, or the judge's attack on them?
    Is that what happened, but with the races reversed?
    Obviously the perps are the guilty parties, but the parents should not be making their race the focus of their child's trauma. That's racist.
     
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    no, I mean their 3 yr old child's fears was due to the trauma the child experienced, the child had fears of black friends after that, sure the fears will subside with time, but that is very valid to bring up during sentencing

    and the judge hearing that, scolded the parents, rather than the perp

    so do you think when a 3 yr old black child is attacked by a white person, and the black 3 yr old child shows fears of white people because of the trauma, the black parents should be scolded if they mention it in court by a white judge?
     
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    No, they were very temporarily ruled by Greeks after Alexander conquered them.
    It was already a great civilization, as Herodotus described.
    No, Athens was by then past its prime, a bit of a backwater. The intellectual action was in Alexandria.
    I'm doing no such thing. Why are you trying to derogate the accomplishments of non-Europeans?
     
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    But that sounds like the parents didn't actually do anything to make their child fear his black friends. If that's the case, then the judge is an idiot.
    No, that would be idiotic.
     
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    the judge was idiotic, but also his actions were racist

    well at least we agree both would be idiotic, though I think both would be racist as well
     
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    For starters, any business wants people who do not cause "problems" internally or externally. If you have a person who questions people because of their race, ethnicity, their background, etc, that person is not going to work at that location for very long. Second, businesses recognize people have different customs, different attitudes, and different ways of doing things, and if you don't know, then you will misinterpret or falsely accuse someone. Hence, the reason for this, especially with large companies. Even Chick Fil A does this with its new employees. The reason why businesses like to obtain different backgrounds is that it creates innovations, new ways of thinking, new ways to see the same problem differently. If you have everyone thinking, looking, and acting the same, that business will become stagnant and eventually not keep up with consumer changes or will be reluctant to keep up with consumer changes.

    Businesses know what they are doing, and they don't want people like Gov DeSantis, who has never owned or managed a business in any way whatsoever, telling them what is good for their business. But you will never know that, will you?
     
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    Do you know the adage that failure to learn from history that you are doomed to repeat it?

    A theory, which is what CRT is, believes that laws were inherently racist. I don't believe in all laws, but the examples I gave are prime examples of American racism that was systemic in its day, especially among Blacks and Asians. That is why the 1965 Immigration act is so important and why Conservatives want it removed and go back to the 1924 Immigration Act, which was inherently racist. Get it now?
     
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    Yes I do.

    "WERE." Okay so why did you say that CRT theorises "that racism is a key to how and why we HAVE certain laws in this country?"

    Quote just ONE SINGLE Republican saying that they want to go back to the 1924 Immigration Act. JUST ONE!
     
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    Is such a person likely going to stop being a racist because of some corporate woke training?
     
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    Yeah okay, I agree that he was demonstrating racial bias. But was he demonstrating hatred towards white people?
     
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